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cowboyneok · 8 months ago

Napolitano was forced to apologize to veterans over the report that hate groups were trying to recruit veterans? Why? I'm a veteran and no apology was necessary. I'm tired of people caving to the right winger veterans who control some of the veteran's organizations. Not all veterans are conservatives and/or supported George W. Bu$hco.'s Presidency. Many of us are ecstatic we finally have a REAL commander-in-chief who looks at all sides of an issue before he throws the military at a problem.

osage · 8 months ago

I'm a veteran. You are right. You are not alone!

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

I am a progressive veteran and was not offended by the HMS report either.

Scottsdalian · 8 months ago

Somehow I suspect that vets who actually FOUGHT in battles probably think differently about war & conflict than vets who never came within 5,000 miles of a flying bullet.

I understand that a soldier who slopped chow on a training base here in US is generally considered as much as a vet who actually had bad guys shooting and bombing him in Iraq/Afgh/VietNam, etc.

I just pay a little different attention to the attitudes and opinions of a guy who has been ass-deep in actual war combat.

osage · 8 months ago

DEVOLUTION OF THE SPECIES

Today's GOP is a genetically and or psychologically deviant mélange of morally and ethically defective mutants, miscreants and kamikaze loyalists who are crashing and burning all things Republican. They are the figurative buzzards and hyenas fighting over the last scraps of a carcass riddled with maggots and festering clumps of putrefied viscera. They are the opportunistic parasites whose very existence is and always has been dependent on sucking blood from the engorged bellies of alpha predators. The prevalence of fear, paranoia and irrational hatred in today's GOP represents the antemortem gasps of a doomed species struggling to survive in evaporating pools of their own toxic waste as they mercilessly slice and dice one another in futile attempts to become the biggest fish in an increasingly smaller and smaller pond.

Jophus · 8 months ago

I really enjoy your writing. What comes next? More attempts or successful attacks? What do you think happens to our own 'species' once theirs is 'extinct'?

I ask because I talk about this frequently with friends. The republican party is experiencing mass exodus and soon the democratic party will be the supreme power. Does our party break up into moderate and progressive? I don't know of any precedent and I'm hoping that you or another reader does. The thought of absolute power to the democrats scares me just as much as dick cheney having it.

osage · 8 months ago

What are you basing your fears on? What Bush/Cheney did when they had "absolute power". Are you afraid that Democrats are as easily deceived, used, abused, manipulated and exploited as religious right fundamentalists, racists, homophobes and or white southern gun-toting cowboys?

Democrats have already voiced more of their disagreements with a Democratic president in his first 100 days than Republicans did with a Republican president during his entire eight years in office, so I have very little reason to believe that Democrats will ever be accused of lock stepping.

And, by the way, comparing Democrats to Dick Cheney makes me think you might be a Republican.

Scottsdalian · 8 months ago

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dems or repubs.

While I am glad power is coming back to sensible Dems, absolute power on either side of the aisle is not good. Just ask Dan Rostenkowski about that.

I think that many of us on the left want a viable repub party as counterbalance.....but BOTH sides cannot be controlled by our/their extremists. That's the big diff right now with the repubs.

condew · 8 months ago

It's the extremism of zero votes that shows the Republican party is doomed.

I think the debates of the future will be between Progressive, Moderate, and Conservative Dems. The trait that doomed the Republicans was the inability to see the other side of an issue and work out compromise; the idea that compromise is the equivalent of date rape. That's a disastrous attitude to have when you're in the minority.

Republicans are all teabaggers now.

Jophus · 8 months ago

Thanks for backing up my question. I didn't think an honest question would bring on an inquisition.

Do you know of any historical examples of one party gaining complete power in a democracy? With out a hostile take over, I mean.

Scottsdalian · 8 months ago

wow. how vivid.

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

I called in to our local radio open call yesterday afternoon. These 'teabaggers" are insane !!! They are frothing at the mouth, ranting and raving luntics !

They are extremely unstable....Faux needs to be held accountable for fanning the flames of these luntics.

The funny thing...they get really pissed off now when you call them "teabaggers" LOL.
Guess they finally figured out what it was LOL.
They were also pissed off when it was pointed out to them that their "movement" was not grassroots...but astro-turfed by Faux.
They were boasting about large turnouts in July....
Whatever..... I Hope the FBI and ATF are keeping a watch on these nutcases before another federal building is attacked al la....Tim Mcveigh......

cole3244 · 8 months ago

let him eat cake and tea!

say hello to bubba for me daniel, you can teabag him and his roomy.

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

I am so sick of these lunitics....
They sat quietly by while the last adminstration tortured people, infringed on our rights and ran up an enormous debt...
They said NOTHING....

They scream and complain that they are not happy with what's happened in this country....are quick to blame Dem's yet FORGET that 20 of the last 28 years have been RepugliCON controlled !!!
If they are Soooo freeking unhappy...maybe they had better stop electing RepugliCONS !!!!
ARGH !!!

shell · 8 months ago

I agree -- and that is what I call mentally retarded. (No offense to those mentally retarded folks who are sane and peaceful.)

Humans who do what you described -- say nothing when the GOP is in power -- yet scream and rant 3 months into a Dem presidency -- are not sane.

And by the way -- I am against the death penalty -- just lock them up -- with a psychiatrist -- for LIFE.

BuddyNovinski · 8 months ago

Let's see: Oklahoma was the reddest state in the last election. Domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh struck in Oklahoma City back in 1995. Did this state ever advance from 1889, when the land run occurred?

cowboyneok · 8 months ago

I live in Oklahoma. We are GROUND ZERO for needed change. G-d Help Us Progressives who are trying to change attitudes. The culture I despise the most is the whole "I wear my ignorance as a badge of honor!" culture I sometimes see. It makes me sick to my stomach for some to be proud of how much THEY DO NOT KNOW!

Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 8 months ago

That's because out here in the Wild West, 'tellectchuls have always been suspectedly homah seck shuls too. Then again our Senator John Cornyn (Jubilation T Cornhole) DID put out the most cowboy-fag political commercial ever made. It was effin' hot! He is such a tard!

shell · 8 months ago

I thought it was cornpone. Cornhole? hahahahaha Good one.

shell · 8 months ago

"Did OK ever advance since 1889?"

Of course. I don't know how old you are, but whatever age, you have to remember that states CHANGE. I grew up in Oklahoma in the 60s/early 70s. I escaped to CA in 1975, and trust me -- Oklahoma was more liberal in 1975 than Sacramento, CA is today. Take gays -- they were OUT in a big way, in Oklahoma, in 1973. Then, sometime after I left, they went right-wing. (Must have been because I left -- haha) Then again, so did California. It's just the times.

The problem with Oklahoma is that they are VERY insecure. Rather than just be themselves, they try to let everyone know they aren't what they really are. (If I say ONE negative thing about OK today, college friends of mine, still in OK, get offended. I tell them: "Say bad things about CA -- I don't care -- I might agree with you -- who knows?" Okies often can't do this.)

BuddyNovinski · 8 months ago

Ironically, it was the Dustbowl that drove many Okies to California in the 1930's (cf. "The Grapes of Wrath". I asked the question because I've never been west of Pittsburgh or south of Washington. In fact, I've never been to a red state, although I did touch Virginia in a trip to Washington back in 1977.
I was not denigrating any particular state, even Utah. When I learned of Matthew Shepard, during the trial of Aaron McKinney, I did not condemn Wyoming. In fact, I realized Matt could have just as well been beaten in my hometown of Wilkes-Barre, where they're stuck in the 1930's.
I just found the opening comments on You Tube from earlier this month where Elton John put on a concert for the Matthew Shepard Foundation. He also mentions the universality of bigotry. I await the passage of the MWS Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Act.

shell · 8 months ago

Don't get me wrong -- I am not upset about what you said -- I was just trying to be accurate.Yes, there are many original Okies in CA because of the dustbowl -- or rather, the ancestors of former Okies. I am neither -- I have no direct relatives in California. Although my parents were the ones to move to Oklahoma (for a professor position), most of their heritage comes from Wisconsin or, mostly, the upper east coast. We have an equal number of relatives in NYC as Wisconsin. (Why, I even had relatives in Wapwallopen, PA. haha)

But, I must say, unlike you, *I* AM prejudiced (not PRE -- what's the word I want?) against southern states. Mostly because they are, overall, racist and retro. (And no, not EVERYBODY in a southern state is racist -- but more than 50% are.)



In a message dated 04/26/09 05:59:10 Pacific Daylight Time, writes:
KeithNovo wrote, in response to shell:

Ironically, it was the Dustbowl that drove many Okies to California in the 1930's (cf. "The Grapes of Wrath". I asked the question because I've never been west of Pittsburgh or south of Washington. In fact, I've never been to a red state, although I did touch Virginia in a trip to Washington back in 1977.

I was not denigrating any particular state, even Utah. When I learned of Matthew Shepard, during the trial of Aaron McKinney, I did not condemn Wyoming. In fact, I realized Matt could have just as well been beaten in my hometown of Wilkes-Barre, where they're stuck in the 1930's.

I just found the opening comments on You Tube from earlier this month where Elton John put on a concert for the Matthew Shepard Foundation. He also mentions the universality of bigotry. I await the passage of the MWS Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Act.

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katiec · 8 months ago

The republicans have become a very dangerous political party.
Their constant citing of unrest, hate, anger and division of our country is unlike anything I have ever seen before.
Are they EVER going to come to their senses and start performing as honorable politicans like they were elected to do?

Scottsdalian · 8 months ago

WTF is with these whackjobs who want to take out cops as a way of proving their Murican manhood???

If this nubjob wants to take himself out.....good - I'm all for it.

But why does he need to take out cops also?????????????????

And then these maroons are glorified as heros?

shell · 8 months ago

My guess is that cops have guns -- the only sure ones who can stop them. And, of course, they have to act in a really public place, where they get lots of publicity -- how else can they "live forever"?

What blows my mind is that they let him out on bail? WTF?

Monitor_One · 8 months ago

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mamazboy · 8 months ago

This guy seems a bit more complicated (confused?) than I thought. His MySpace page has the great Klaus Nomi video of "Lightning Strikes" fer chrissakes! What kind of psycho right-wing teabagger listsens to Klaus Nomi? What's next - Pussy Tourette? the Del Rubio Triplets? Jobriath? Now I'M confused.

lilliannerose · 8 months ago

I'm waiting for the neonuts to start chattering about how Obama is out to get em!

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

I am already hearing that here in NW FL....
The latest is....
"They're taking our RIGHT AWAY !!"
The shrillness of it is sickening...
So I ask...WHAT RIGHTS HAVE YOU Lost....

Chirp
Chirp
Chrip

"They are GOING to take our rights away" is always the comeback.....
Idiots....

vkobaya · 8 months ago

Guy's lost his marbles. Any that he still has are badly cracked.

shell · 8 months ago

I read this nut's MySpace page. And it reminded me of something I have thought for a long time: if they believe all that they post on their MySpace page (and I assume they do): why did they wait until NOW to act? This guy was freaking out about 9/11 conspiracies. Does he know the GOP was in charge on 9/11? Why did he sit on his ass until the GOP was out of power? And he has a poster about Hitler and others saying you must have gun control, acting like that's the problem. Is he SO history-ignorant that he doesn't know all 3 he showed were KILLED by the government? (Or before the govt could get to them.)

threadmonitor · 8 months ago

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Indigo · 8 months ago

One more reason not to twitter.

Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 8 months ago

You can lay this shit right at the feet of Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly et alia. Aren't there some pesky things in the Constitution about treason and seditious speech???

Chris_Tucker · 8 months ago

I wonder if things like MySpace and Facebook, et al, will be something that will/should be monitored by the FBI or local/state agencies. Or are the really dangerous and committed rightwing loonies, as they say, "quiet, kept to himself, didn't know his neighbors, etc."

jeffconn · 8 months ago

MySpace and Facebook HAVE been monitored by law enforcement agencies. Some of the loonies don't realize that talking crazy on a MySpace or Facebook page is the same as saying these things in a public space.

ndtovent · 8 months ago

....and all the bile these right wing talkies spew just adds more fuel to fire for these fringe wackos, pushing them even farther over the edge until they snap and go on a killing spree. I'm all for free speech, but I wish there was a way to curb some of the hate/rage ranting without infringing on that right.

thaneb · 8 months ago

An commentators on the right will likely say the poor man was driven insane by the pressures of an election stolen by ACORN, an economy ruined by Barney Frank and the bigotry of the left. (I have actually been seeing this "bigotry of the left" phrase lately, ugh.)

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LawMichigander · 8 months ago

Um I hope they take him right to a therapist.

hrh · 8 months ago

Ah, Oklahomans. Always on the wrong side of history, and damned proud of it.

BillT_veteran_USAF · 8 months ago

The Republican party only knows how to rule by fear. That's the only way of life their pea brain can comprehend.

Wesinoregon · 8 months ago

They learned it from Talibangelicals. They love to scare little children in sunday school

Bill_FL · 8 months ago

I didn't mean to demean anyone personally by using the "pea brain" expression, it's just their thinking is so basic and shallow.

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

Hi Bill, welcome aboard.
Bill is a local friend of mine here in NW FL.

It's "hard work" living here with the heavy influence of the American Taliban..ugh.

Bill_FL · 8 months ago

Thank you Ginger. Yes, it's both challenging and interesting to live here amongst the bible toting republican extremist. I can't think of a better place for us to start a grass-roots movement.

smallhandff · 8 months ago

Would someone explain to my why Janet Napolitano ultimately apologised to the right-wing crazys for issuing that report? If J. N. can't find the 'nads to stand up to these terrorists, who in the Democratic Party can?

Ginger_FL · 8 months ago

They haven't learned how to tell the nuts to STFU yet.

Once they learn how to do that....the media will be less inclinded to give them 24/7 airtime to beat up the administration over nothing.

Bill_FL · 8 months ago

Yeah, I know that philosophy well. My father was a pentacostal minister. I heard all that fear crap in church also. Maybe that explains why I'm not a friend of the right wing.