McCain does not come off well without his ignorant mob mentality base egging him on. He just looked sad, angry and desparate. His jokes fell flat in a major way.
grandma
· 1 year ago
NY Times:
Ninety minutes of forced cordiality did not erase the dismal ugliness of his campaign in recent weeks, nor did it leave us with much hope that he would not just return to the same dismal ugliness on Wednesday.
In a way, we should not be surprised that Mr. McCain has stooped so low, since the debate showed once again that he has little else to talk about. He long ago abandoned his signature issues of immigration reform and global warming; his talk of “victory” in Iraq has little to offer a wary-weary nation; and his Reagan-inspired ideology of starving government and shredding regulation lies in tatters on Wall Street.
But surely, Mr. McCain and his team can come up with a better answer to that problem than inciting more division, anger and hatred.
McCain never looks well. To me, he looked stiff, hunched, with his usual pallor and he did look tired.
erick28
· 1 year ago
Kindly go over the debate footage, if u have one. I notice, after the debate and shaking the hands/meeting the audiences, Obama and Mc Cain met in the midle and Obama offered his hand for a handshake Mc Cain did not offer his hand instead offered his wife for him to shake her hand. I might be wrong but worth checking.
Thank you grandma. I hope you have a great day today. It is a wonderful day when we see a greater future ahead of us. It can be rough but it will be alot nicer.
Hannah
· 1 year ago
Time to smack down McCain with the truth on his supposed strength. Pass this along:
The Presidential Candidates on the Troops and Veterans’ Affairs:
We hear a lot from both campaigns about which candidate is a stronger supporter of our troops and veterans. In fact at the end of the first presidential debate John McCain proclaimed, “I know the veterans… I love them, and I'll take care of them”.
What is the truth? Perhaps it’s time to listen to actual veterans groups.
Here are the most recent scores given to each candidate based on their voting record on veteran’s issues: From the Disabled American Veterans http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.ph... Democratic Ticket Barack Obama 80 out of 100 Joseph Biden 75 out of 100
Republican Ticket John McCain 20 out of 100 Sarah Palin: no record
Republican Ticket John McCain D Sarah Palin: no record
According to votevets.org http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid... - McCain has voted 29 times against veterans' medical benefits. - McCain was a staunch opponent of the bipartisan Webb/Hagel GI Bill. This bill would have provided better educational opportunities to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Barack Obama supported and was a co-sponsor of this bill. - McCain opposed the Webb/Hagel Dwell time amendment. This amendment would have ensured that for every day troops were deployed, they would spend one day at home. Obama supported and was a co-sponsor of this amendment. - McCain opposed the Bayh amendment that would have provided $360 million for the procurement of up-armored humvees at a time when roadside bombs were killing American troops. Obama supported the amendment. It failed. - McCain voted to kill the Reed Amendment. This amendment would have begun to increase the size of the active army in 2003 and focused on stability operations. - McCain voted against the Dodd amendment that would provide an additional $320 million in protective gear for our troops in harms way. - McCain voted against a Landrieu amendment that would have given our National Guard and Reserve troops the equipment they needed to survive on the battlefield.
Those two words so clearly illustrated McCain's level of condescension towards Obama. A pretty big fuck up at this point.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
The contempt for the uppity upstart first expressed in the Feb 6, 2006 letter to Obama. Now it's visible for all to see.
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Yup. The contempt has always been there, but tonight everybody got to see it first hand.
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
what letter?
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Hi! Just google "McCain Letter to Obama." It has to do with Obama having second thoughts about a McCain-sponsored ethics reform bill. What's really germane is the tone of the letter.
ColoradoDem
· 1 year ago
As I was watching it, it genuinely appeared as though McCain couldn't remember Obama's name. But since he was "on a roll", he had to say something. Out came, "that one". Anyone else see it this way?
benb
· 1 year ago
Gleeful isn't he in objectifying Obama. McCain's gonna regret this. What a distasteful moment.
TheAngryFag
· 1 year ago
What an ass. He should just concede now.
therepguy
· 1 year ago
McCain is either a racist or a fascist or both... but he isn't much of an American anymore!
OMGWE
· 1 year ago
Concerning the non-issue, “that one” reference that I heard mentioned on C-SPAN after the debate: I chuckled when McCain said it. I did not feel it was disrespectful but endearing. That is something you typically hear people say amongst family and often used by some towards a younger counterpart. I do not think McCain and Obama feel as family with one another today, but I do believe that was the intended sentiment. Commentators are seriously reaching if they must try to make something so mundane into an issue. On the other hand, what they should have mentioned was the blatant disrespect that Obama and Biden showed their opponents in the first two debates. During the VP debate Biden’s body language during Palin’s responses was offensive. Biden was scoffing, sighing, laughing and making faces. Grow up Mr. Biden! During the first Presidential debate Obama interrupted McCain -often speaking over him during many of McCain’s responses. Senator Obama -we take turns in a debate, much like on the play yard. I was glad to see he learned his lesson before tonight’s debate. Now if only someone would teach him to follow the ‘rules’ of the debate!
Rev_Sacrilege
· 1 year ago
If McCain can't manage a measure of self control in a debate moderated by one of his buddies, how's he going to stay cool when he's in talks with Russia?
The reference to "that one," was a bit childish, as was his snide comment, "Did we hear the size of the fine?" His demeanor is going to cost him dearly, to the benefit of us all.
seohio
· 1 year ago
This is a non-issue. He might've thought he referred to "Senators" and then said "That one."
bunnyjump
· 1 year ago
Racist. Plain and simple. Let's remember that McCain is 72 years old. Many racists of that age still utilize the n-word and think nothing of it. Given the vitriolic nature of his campaign rallies as of late...the use of "that one" reeks of racism. And let's remember...the rethugs have no problem pandering to the racist base...McCain is doing just that.
All Comments
Ninety minutes of forced cordiality did not erase the dismal ugliness of his campaign in recent weeks, nor did it leave us with much hope that he would not just return to the same dismal ugliness on Wednesday.
In a way, we should not be surprised that Mr. McCain has stooped so low, since the debate showed once again that he has little else to talk about. He long ago abandoned his signature issues of immigration reform and global warming; his talk of “victory” in Iraq has little to offer a wary-weary nation; and his Reagan-inspired ideology of starving government and shredding regulation lies in tatters on Wall Street.
But surely, Mr. McCain and his team can come up with a better answer to that problem than inciting more division, anger and hatred.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/opinion/08wed...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
The Presidential Candidates on the Troops and Veterans’ Affairs:
We hear a lot from both campaigns about which candidate is a stronger supporter of our troops and veterans. In fact at the end of the first presidential debate John McCain proclaimed, “I know the veterans… I love them, and I'll take care of them”.
What is the truth? Perhaps it’s time to listen to actual veterans groups.
Here are the most recent scores given to each candidate based on their voting record on veteran’s issues:
From the Disabled American Veterans http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.ph...
Democratic Ticket
Barack Obama 80 out of 100
Joseph Biden 75 out of 100
Republican Ticket
John McCain 20 out of 100
Sarah Palin: no record
From the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America
http://www.iava.org/full-ratings-list
Democratic Ticket
Barack Obama B+
Joseph Biden B+
Republican Ticket
John McCain D
Sarah Palin: no record
According to votevets.org
http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid...
- McCain has voted 29 times against veterans' medical benefits.
- McCain was a staunch opponent of the bipartisan Webb/Hagel GI Bill. This bill would have provided better educational opportunities to veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Barack Obama supported and was a co-sponsor of this bill.
- McCain opposed the Webb/Hagel Dwell time amendment. This amendment would have ensured that for every day troops were deployed, they would spend one day at home. Obama supported and was a co-sponsor of this amendment.
- McCain opposed the Bayh amendment that would have provided $360 million for the procurement of up-armored humvees at a time when roadside bombs were killing American troops. Obama supported the amendment. It failed.
- McCain voted to kill the Reed Amendment. This amendment would have begun to increase the size of the active army in 2003 and focused on stability operations.
- McCain voted against the Dodd amendment that would provide an additional $320 million in protective gear for our troops in harms way.
- McCain voted against a Landrieu amendment that would have given our National Guard and Reserve troops the equipment they needed to survive on the battlefield.
Much more detailed information is available at: http://vetvoice.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=D63...
It’s time to elect Barack Obama and Joe Biden, the team that values our troops and veterans with their votes, not just empty rhetoric.
He appears to direct his opponent to his wife, when Obama offers his hand.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
On the other hand, what they should have mentioned was the blatant disrespect that Obama and Biden showed their opponents in the first two debates. During the VP debate Biden’s body language during Palin’s responses was offensive. Biden was scoffing, sighing, laughing and making faces. Grow up Mr. Biden!
During the first Presidential debate Obama interrupted McCain -often speaking over him during many of McCain’s responses. Senator Obama -we take turns in a debate, much like on the play yard. I was glad to see he learned his lesson before tonight’s debate. Now if only someone would teach him to follow the ‘rules’ of the debate!
The reference to "that one," was a bit childish, as was his snide comment, "Did we hear the size of the fine?" His demeanor is going to cost him dearly, to the benefit of us all.