In Martin County, Kentucky this week, John McCain added another one his "Forgotten Places" to the growing list of places his campaign would now like to forget. With a straight face, McCain told the residents of the economically devastated region that eBay represents their economic future. And he did so by appropriating the words of Meg Whitman, who just happens to be not only McCain's national campaign co-chair, but the former CEO of eBay.
As NPR reported this morning, McCain took pains to deride President Johnson's "Great Society" and subsequent action by the federal government to alleviate poverty. Donning his compassionate conservative hat, McCain told an audience in Inez, Kentucky, "You have a right to expect us to show as much concern for helping you create more and better choices to make for yourselves as we show any other community in America." And one of those better choices, according to John McCain, is to become a seller on the auction site, eBay:
"Today, for example, 1.3 million people in the world make a living off eBay, most of those are in the United State of America."
Ebay's Whitman couldn't have put it better herself. In fact, she put it almost exactly the same on way on CBS 60 Minutes in March. As she told Lesley Stahl:
"We have about - around the world, about 1.3 million people make most, if not all, of their living selling on eBay."
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
Cheney said this same shit, too. If people need money, they can just sell their stuff on ebay. If people need health care, they can just go to an emergency room.
Rab
· 1 year ago
She'll put America's honor on Ebay next.....wait a minute....the shrub already did that.....
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
No takers, after 8 years, with a "teaser" start bid of 0.99. Buy-It-Now Price: $24.99.
kraftysue
· 1 year ago
McCain stated on the trail this morning that not only did she put the plane on E-Bay, she sold it on E-Bay for a profit??? Her comments in the same appearance were exactly the ones used in her speech Wednes. Guess she can't think of anything to say on her own.
nicho
· 1 year ago
You don't sell private jets on eBay. You sell them through brokers. This isn't a used guitar we're talking about.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
You can sell a plane on ebay.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
People sell multi million dollar items on eBay quite often, planes, land, homes, yachts, cars, expensive jewelry.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Actually you can sell planes, cars, homes and even Islands on eBay, it's done all of the time.
You need to add that today John McCain, in Cederburg WI, said she sold it on ebay AND "she "sold it at a profit"
I screwed up the figures in earlier posts BUT if the plane costs 2.7 million and sold for 2.1 million, how is that a profit? McCain-onomics
alaskan
· 1 year ago
She did not sell it on EBay. She lost 500,000 on it
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Actually, if the plane actually did cost $2.7 million as I have heard claimed and they sold it for $2.1 million, then they LOST $600,000 on the sale. That is hardly a profit as they claimed. PLUS there were listing fees on eBay and for an item that expensive, they would be VERY STEEP.
Has anybody been able to find a record on eBay of this auction? What I'd like to know is what was paid for auction fees, which you have to pay based on selling price (or reserve price) and I would assume would be pretty steep for an item of that value! Cephas www.PeeDub.com
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
The plane NEVER sold when it was on eBay, they had to give it to an aircraft broker who finally sold it for $2.1 million.
Aquarius's numbers on the plane are correct and here are 2 sources:
Don't forget, it also COSTS money to put it on eBay, even if it DOESN'T sell...
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Right AND at a selling price of $2.5 million, you can bet that those fees were STEEP!
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Not if there's a reserve. She said there was a reserve.
cephas
· 1 year ago
My point is, even if you DON'T sell an item on eBay, you still have to pay a percentage of the selling price or reserve price to eBay for listing fees. So, I would imagine a large amount of money went to eBay for the auction even though it didn't sell on eBay. I'd love to know how much that cost!!! Talk about wasteful spending.
As a seller on eBay myself, I can say that you are absolutely correct about eBay's fees and for an item this expensive it must have cost a FORTUNE to list it.
I could find out how much that would cost, but I'm not sure I have that kind of time. Actually anyone could figure it out if you go to http:www.ebay.com
Just go to the sellers section and see what they say are the costs for the LISTING FEE for an item selling for $2.5 Million. That is the name of the charges that would apply to that sale.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
It wouldn't be 20%
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
I'm sure it's nothing like that. Once an item is priced over a certain amount (not sure what it is) I believe they have flat rates for listings. Remember, it's to Ebay's benefit to actually have them SELL the item as once sold, eBay gets a FINAL VALUE FEE and that is really these days.
So whatever the amount is, on an item that expensive, the fees still would be VERY high.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
It sure as Hell wouldn't have been $500,000!
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Post modern pols have no qualms about grabbing anything and twisting it anyway to bluster their way through any pesky Q&A. Twisting Palin's viewers into supporters, HRC's primary voters into diehards, taxing the top 1% into massive crippling middle class taxes, occupation into war and into the chimera of single front victory...It's so easy a Rethuglican could do it!
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
Really guys, it is just me or is McCain "embellishing" facts just a little too much on this, his official, first day as a candidate.
His handlers are going to have to start putting sticky notes on his sleeves to help him remember truth from fiction.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Sticky notes? Why not just use the spray paint they used for his "tan" last night?
aquarius2
· 1 year ago
LMAO I see you are still on the tan thing.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
It was as if he was trying to look like Tiger wood's Dad!
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Instead he looked like Tiger Wood's great great great grandfather...
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
This is the same woman that kept the money for "The Bridge To Nowhere", goes to St. Paul/ Minneapolis and doesn't even mention the bridge that fell there!!!!
WHAT A BITCH!
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Excellent point...it was as emotionally empty as the Excel was semi-filled.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
Does anyone believe that this TV audience is bigger than the one for Obama? I find that difficult to believe...
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Uhhh, if there was that many people watching, why is it that palin felt the need to say that McCain would never tell us that he's the only one that has sacrificed for this country?
He said it last night at the convention. She knows that nobody watched it.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
never invoke images of tragedy when you're trying to distance yourself from bushco.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
again... 2.1 million... in perspective, that's 7 pair of cindy's earrings.
did you hear mccain was a POW?
oh, and Obama's an elitist.
McFly
· 1 year ago
Yes, we heard that mccain was a POW. We know that it drives you commuswine up the wall to know that one single man has done more for this nation than the lot of you combined.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
okay asshole...
not disrespecting mccains service, but... explain to me exactly how being a POW does something for this nation??
.
KerrynowCampau
· 1 year ago
This is great. The dems need to get this woman a microphone.
if taking care of people with disabilities was left to the repugnicans... there'd be a TON of institutionalized kids.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Now, does McCain remember this jet selling on the online auction for a profit..........or did he just assume that Palin didn't lie?
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
When is Bristol's due date?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Wow...MSNBC just showed a clip of Biden today in PA Biden talking of the RNConvention said they don't want to talk about the last 8 years....they have no solutions.. so all they can do is attack the 'other' guy.
Biden is great !!....
Give em hell Joe !!
houstonray
· 1 year ago
CNN was broadcasting his speech as well, he was great!!
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
ABC is reporting that she's trying to interfere with "Trooper-Gate":
We need a due date. See, Bristol is losing weight and I'm pretty sure she's just shedding the baby fat from the birth of Trig (whom has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome). If that's true, then Rove is going to pretend that Bristol miscarried and blame the Dems in order to garner a synpathy vote.
It's last-resort, but you put anything past them?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
nah... has to be more like 3months... too soon after Trig for Bristol to be preggers again.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Who's plane was she on after her water broke?
Remember when her cell phone rang and someone told her it's time to start pretending that it was HER water that broke? This was while she was visiting Rick perry. I noticed there's no pics of Palin with Rick's wife.
I'm sure it's nothing.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Joe, She IS crafty with her words, BUT they still lied about making a profit on the plane!
The plane cost $2.7 million, they listed in on eBay for $2.5 million and it didn't sell. So they gave it to an aircraft broker who sold it for $2.1 million.
They did finally SELL the plane however NO PROFIT WAS MADE as they claimed.
McFly
· 1 year ago
OMG this will cost mccain the election. Boo hoo hoo. All hail pres-o-den Godbama.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Beats the Hell out of the toothless "Barackacuda" .
houstonray
· 1 year ago
We can only hope. It goes to show how they just make shit up without checking the facts and spew it out as fact....every other word out of their mouth is some made up shit that they don't think anyone will bother to see if it's true.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
LOL, nervous are you?
grandma
· 1 year ago
Oprah:
OPRAH'S STATEMENT: "The item in today's Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the beginning of this Presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
Oh, the Right is in a frenzy over this Oprah story. They are the ones who have been flooding her website with emails telling her to have Palin on. I'm with Oprah on this one, sure Palin would be a great interview, but she has not had Obama on since he began running for President. All of her support has been for him as Private Citizen. You go Oprah! Don't back down to the crazy fringe Right.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
palin on Oprah... well... there's hope for tom cruise yet.
I bet palin would make even tom cruise's Oprah antics look sane.
something tells me she'd bring her rifle collection... or a bear-skin rug as a gift for Oprah.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Cool. That's when we'll find out if Palin wears black underwear...or if it was just flies. They always have her elevated.
houstonray
· 1 year ago
OMG...my eyes! my eyes!
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Now you know why McCain was staring. Her ass was buzzing.
McFly
· 1 year ago
Oh my christ! This is going to cost mccain the election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
Aren't you the one that claimed Mark Foley was just testing those kids for the early onset of diabetes?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
yup... and he claims progress is a dirty word.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
I thought he left....come to find out it was time to change Vitter's diaper.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Vote right now:
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I didn't read everybody's comments yet..... but someone said earlier today on here that they were watching CNN today and saw Palin and McBush and this person said they heard McBush say " She sold the plane on E-Bay"
McBush actually used the word ."sold"
can we get that video of them today?
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
I know that's the words he used. He also followed up with stating she made a profit as well.
grandma
· 1 year ago
I read that too...that McCain said today that she sold it...and made a profit !!!
grandma
· 1 year ago
Ben Smith at Politico:
But McCain, retelling the story, misstated it today:
"You know what i enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- made a profit," he said, introducing Palin.
Well, no. And the state sold it at a loss of half a million dollars.
McCain can prove he's not out of toch by telling us how much profit was made and whom ebey billed for the sale.
Was the profit claimed on their taxes?
kattywacky
· 1 year ago
MISS CONGENIALITY?
Was Sarah Palin actually Miss Congeniality in the Miss Wasilla contest? Another woman, Amy Gwin of University City Missouri says that she was awarded that title. (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnist...)
This is a minor point, and I don't know who is telling the truth. But why are so many details about Sarah Palin so fuzzy? It's absurd that the facts about someone who's running for VP for the US is so flimsy,
By the way, the woman who claims that she was Miss Congeniality sounds like a very reputable person with nothing to gain from any notoriety. She was featured in another article - a very poignant one - about the challenges of having an autistic daughter.
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Vetting for her meant ensuring she could LIE by OMISSION like a good Republican. She passed.
BLOGGING BITCH!
· 1 year ago
CNN is about to update us on Palin's "Alaske Problems"!
iamevolved
· 1 year ago
I bet we soon find out that John McCain met Governor Palin through a Craigslist "W4M" listing.
Oh Lord, here we go again. So many wingnuts say that eBay is a faaaaabulous way to earn a vast second or third income. (Or even a first.) I buy a LOT of stuff from eBay, and it pains me to see how much work it takes to list items, keep track of, package, do the moneywork, and ship the items for the little money sold for vast majority of the stuff sold there--books, small household items, etc. The exception is for a seller who has carved out a niche selling expensive things, and/or a person with an existing business who sells on eBay as a sideline rather than rent or expand office space. In fact, I've even paid more for an item--for example, a dog-eared paperback nonfiction book, one time, at which I was the top bidder at five cents, because I harbored a grudge against the author (actually, thanks to me, the co-author), who'd gotten a great deal of work out of me without credit or a share of sales. I told the seller why I was paying her five bucks extra; I didn't want to make HER do all that work and get shafted because of my malevolence. She responded that she'd gladly refund the fiver if I asked, but she was trying to support her children as a single mom. I saw no reason to doubt her.
So, make a fortune off eBay? Suuuuuure. Just ask Meg Whitman, former CEO of eBay. Not how she made her bundle, no?
FatRat
· 1 year ago
Three jets and very little reality.
Romney accused Gore of owning a jet, at the RNC. McCain's wife bought John a jet. It's nice to be a millionaire. Palain took a financial drubbing, when she sold the Ebay jet.
Reality is not exactly kind to the Republicans; but they aren't part of the reality based community. The Republicans are lucky that the that the 4th estate is dead.
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Just wondering.
In Martin County, Kentucky this week, John McCain added another one his "Forgotten Places" to the growing list of places his campaign would now like to forget. With a straight face, McCain told the residents of the economically devastated region that eBay represents their economic future. And he did so by appropriating the words of Meg Whitman, who just happens to be not only McCain's national campaign co-chair, but the former CEO of eBay.
As NPR reported this morning, McCain took pains to deride President Johnson's "Great Society" and subsequent action by the federal government to alleviate poverty. Donning his compassionate conservative hat, McCain told an audience in Inez, Kentucky, "You have a right to expect us to show as much concern for helping you create more and better choices to make for yourselves as we show any other community in America." And one of those better choices, according to John McCain, is to become a seller on the auction site, eBay:
Ebay's Whitman couldn't have put it better herself. In fact, she put it almost exactly the same on way on CBS 60 Minutes in March. As she told Lesley Stahl:
Crazy? YES!
see http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/us/25jet.html...
I'm just wondering.... wondering.... did Big Oil come in to take an Albatross off the neck of the new VP Nominee?
Just wondering... sounds a little shakey.. to me.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/9/5/5540/01679
You need to add that today John McCain, in Cederburg WI, said she sold it on ebay AND "she "sold it at a profit"
I screwed up the figures in earlier posts BUT if the plane costs 2.7 million and sold for 2.1 million, how is that a profit?
McCain-onomics
they LOST $600,000 on the sale. That is hardly a profit as they claimed. PLUS there were listing fees on eBay and for an item that expensive, they would be VERY STEEP.
Might I even suggest they LIED.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/us/25jet.html...
Cephas
www.PeeDub.com
Aquarius's numbers on the plane are correct and here are 2 sources:
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/election/2008/09/0...
http://www.dubyad40.com/2008/09/you-know-that-j...
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Cephas
www.PeeDub.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/25/us/25jet.html...
.
I could find out how much that would cost, but I'm not sure I have that kind of time. Actually anyone could figure it out if you go to http:www.ebay.com
Just go to the sellers section and see what they say are the costs for the LISTING FEE for an item selling for $2.5 Million. That is the name of the charges that would apply to that sale.
So whatever the amount is, on an item that expensive, the fees still would be VERY high.
Twisting Palin's viewers into supporters, HRC's primary voters into diehards, taxing the top 1% into massive crippling middle class taxes, occupation into war and into the chimera of single front victory...It's so easy a Rethuglican could do it!
His handlers are going to have to start putting sticky notes on his sleeves to help him remember truth from fiction.
WHAT A BITCH!
He said it last night at the convention. She knows that nobody watched it.
did you hear mccain was a POW?
oh, and Obama's an elitist.
not disrespecting mccains service, but... explain to me exactly how being a POW does something for this nation??
.
My Alaskan soul sister is an empty vessel...
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/200...
if taking care of people with disabilities was left to the repugnicans... there'd be a TON of institutionalized kids.
Biden talking of the RNConvention said they don't want to talk about the last 8 years....they have no solutions..
so all they can do is attack the 'other' guy.
Biden is great !!....
Give em hell Joe !!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Now, she's either crazy or it's time she piss in a cup.
This Broadcasting & Cable story says 5 months:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/CA6593154.html
It's last-resort, but you put anything past them?
Remember when her cell phone rang and someone told her it's time to start pretending that it was HER water that broke? This was while she was visiting Rick perry. I noticed there's no pics of Palin with Rick's wife.
I'm sure it's nothing.
She IS crafty with her words, BUT they still lied about making a profit on the plane!
The plane cost $2.7 million, they listed in on eBay for $2.5 million and it didn't sell. So they gave it to an aircraft broker who sold it for $2.1 million.
They did finally SELL the plane however NO PROFIT WAS MADE as they claimed.
OPRAH'S STATEMENT: "The item in today's Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the beginning of this Presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3os.htm
I bet palin would make even tom cruise's Oprah antics look sane.
something tells me she'd bring her rifle collection... or a bear-skin rug as a gift for Oprah.
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http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
but
someone said earlier today on here that they were watching CNN today and saw Palin and McBush and this person said they heard McBush say " She sold the plane on E-Bay"
McBush actually used the word ."sold"
can we get that video of them today?
But McCain, retelling the story, misstated it today:
"You know what i enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- made a profit," he said, introducing Palin.
Well, no. And the state sold it at a loss of half a million dollars.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Not...
Was the profit claimed on their taxes?
Was Sarah Palin actually Miss Congeniality in the Miss Wasilla contest? Another woman, Amy Gwin of University City Missouri says that she was awarded that title. (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnist...)
This is a minor point, and I don't know who is telling the truth. But why are so many details about Sarah Palin so fuzzy? It's absurd that the facts about someone who's running for VP for the US is so flimsy,
By the way, the woman who claims that she was Miss Congeniality sounds like a very reputable person with nothing to gain from any notoriety. She was featured in another article - a very poignant one - about the challenges of having an autistic daughter.
www.housekeysformccain.blogspot.com
So, make a fortune off eBay? Suuuuuure. Just ask Meg Whitman, former CEO of eBay. Not how she made her bundle, no?
Romney accused Gore of owning a jet, at the RNC.
McCain's wife bought John a jet. It's nice to be a millionaire.
Palain took a financial drubbing, when she sold the Ebay jet.
Reality is not exactly kind to the Republicans; but they aren't part of the reality based community. The Republicans are lucky that the that the 4th estate is dead.