Yep... my first thought: oh right, Christians being led in the wrong direction -- yet AGAIN.
Older_Wiser
· 7 months ago
You know, when it takes this comments section 5 minutes to fully load, it's time to move on.
But I just had to say, please do not confuse myth with real history. You're making an assumption about a full blown narcissistic personality ("Jesus Christ, Son of God") whose always developing "story" over the millennia has been pushed on hundreds of millions (100 million in China alone), usually in early childhood, or which appeals to troubled adults.
Such a cult leader today is called a "televangelist" among other descriptions, and JC would certainly fit right in as one of them.
Ignatz
· 7 months ago
"pushed on hundreds of millions (100 million in China alone), usually in early childhood, or which appeals to troubled adults."
Are you saying that all who are Christians as adults are "troubled"? All two billion?
That's an extraordinary claim. Any evidence for that claim?
Yes, I know, which is why is fun to point it out when skeptics make claims without evidence, after they criticize the religious.
SCLiberal
· 7 months ago
and those of us who are not christian couldn't care less.
Ignatz
· 7 months ago
"and those of us who are not christian couldn't care less."
But simply MUST comment, to demonstrate how much we don't care.
Steven in Tokyo
· 7 months ago
Yes, we must comment, to let you know that you, in your smugness, are part of a dying creed. We will no longer remain silent in the face of your absurdities.
ignatz
· 7 months ago
Oh my, and that statement of yours wounds me so horribly.
If that's the reason, that's pathetic.
Steven in Tokyo
· 7 months ago
Why is it pathetic? Too many people have remained silent for too long. It needs to be repeated, and acknowledged publicly, that many of us are not religious in any way. We can do without your religious smugness.
ignatz
· 7 months ago
In the first place, the smugness is yours. In the second place, I don't feel the need to inject religion into every secular conversation. Fundamentalists do that. And the need to inject atheism into every religious conversation is the same thing: A form of fundamentalist obsession. And yes, it's pathetic. Fundamentalists are ridiculous, whether they are religious fundamentalists or adherents of a non-religious ideology.
cowboyneok
· 7 months ago
I'm with "ignatz" many of us do not feel any better than you. We are on our life's journeys as well as yourself. I don't care if you are an atheist or what you believe in. It doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is you are a fellow human being, and, in my mind and heart, a fellow child of G-d. I respect you for WHO you are, and WHAT you believe in. You are on your journey and I am on mine but we all go to that great mysterious place eventually. I am not G-d, so I would never presume to tell you, you are wrong in your faith or beliefs. I know what I believe and that is good enough for me.
catherine
· 7 months ago
and you ruin your arguments with the vileness of your commentary. pretty damned angry aren't you.
Taylor
· 7 months ago
The Christ-haters should consider what the Roman world was in the time of Jesus. The traditional Roman pantheon was intended more than anything else to confirm the authority of the patricians, the Senate and ultimately the emperor. Think of the extraordinary pull of Christianity for a population that presumably felt isolated from that power structure that gave vast wealth to the elites and a miserable life and grubby death to everyone else. The Roman reaction against Christianity was all about power, and the danger that a populace that embraced Christianity would reject the traditional justifications for authority in Rome. Ultimately of course Constantine realized the inevitable and adopted Christianity as the state religion, and it became the new glue that bound the empire together. Still, don't let the imperial embrace and assimilation of Chrstianity, obscure the extraordinary character whose attraction to the lowest of the low two thousand years ago was downright socialistic.
cowboyneok
· 7 months ago
Hear! Hear! AND also the very idea that the Kingdom of G-d is within us ALL! The historical significance of Jerusalem is undeniable, but the message that G-d is WITHIN us and the "way of suffering" can be internalized, the cross and the entire life story of Jesus is what is truly revolutionary. If the message is you are saved because of what Jesus Christ did for us, and there is no need to "worship" other human beings then it certainly throws cold water on the wealthy elites, doesn't it?
Paidi
· 7 months ago
The great Jewish revolt of 70 AD resulted in the total destruction of Jerusalem, which was then rebuilt upon the ruins - only to have the process repeated in the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 AD.
As a result these and additional conflicts over the years, the actual street level of Jerusalem in Jesus' day lies well over some 50 feet under the present street level.
As several scholars have gently pointed out, the path of the Via Dolorosa, if projected on to 1st century Jerusalem, passes though a number of buildings and walls.
capnmike
· 7 months ago
It's totally irrelevant to anything. Christianity is just anopther religious hoax, like all the other supernatural nonsense humans seem to be addicted to, and should be relegated to the trash-heap where it belongs.
Brad
· 7 months ago
I found this nugget of cultural anthropology amusing. Ooga-Boogah!
tomtallis
· 7 months ago
A visit to the Schatzkammer in Vienna has convinced me that there are enough pieces of the "true" cross in Europe to build a sizeable house.
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But I just had to say, please do not confuse myth with real history. You're making an assumption about a full blown narcissistic personality ("Jesus Christ, Son of God") whose always developing "story" over the millennia has been pushed on hundreds of millions (100 million in China alone), usually in early childhood, or which appeals to troubled adults.
Such a cult leader today is called a "televangelist" among other descriptions, and JC would certainly fit right in as one of them.
Are you saying that all who are Christians as adults are "troubled"? All two billion?
That's an extraordinary claim. Any evidence for that claim?
But simply MUST comment, to demonstrate how much we don't care.
If that's the reason, that's pathetic.
As a result these and additional conflicts over the years, the actual street level of Jerusalem in Jesus' day lies well over some 50 feet under the present street level.
As several scholars have gently pointed out, the path of the Via Dolorosa, if projected on to 1st century Jerusalem, passes though a number of buildings and walls.