DISQUS

AMERICAblog: The Florida and Michigan Democratic parties got what they wanted today. It's time for unity -- and the pressure is on Clinton to let Democrats unite.

  • Miket298 · 1 year ago
    Was just watching CNN interviewing Robert Wexler and they are still shouting "Denver" in the background
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    LOL!

    That's because Hillary didn't buy them bus tickets back to Florida.
  • Grimmlok · 1 year ago
    That's cuz she can't, she's broke! :P
  • Patriot · 1 year ago
    All conventional wisdom would lead a sane, rational, intelligent candidate to concede gracefully if they were in Hillary's position. And, soon! The only drama left in this race is whether she will do just that or completely destroy all credibility she might have left. I'm really hoping for the former but, not betting against the later.

    The next week will be interesting, to say the least.
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    The Democratic party would be much better off if Clinton and her lunatic fringe followers would remove themselves to the GOP. And I say that as a 57 year old white woman who is sick and tired of that woman's shit.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    Hey look at this way Helena - Montana might put Obama over the top. Ride 'em cowboys!

    As far as the Cinton supporters go some will join us, others will ride off into the GOP sunset. A new day is rising - hopefully the fascist in Washington don't start WW III before they're rounded up and tried for War Crimes.

    How's the old man in the mountains doing?
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    He's doing the Obama happy dance.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    That Helena, was witty and funny - gotta love Montanans.
  • vickif · 1 year ago
    I'm a 63 year old white woman who is also sick and tired of that women's shit. And I'm tired of people telling me I should vote for a woman because I'm a woman. She's just another Bushite as far as I'm concerned.
  • Schmomama · 1 year ago
    She has more popular votes than Obama. It's like 2000 all over again. Why can't Obama close the deal?
  • RenoAnne · 1 year ago
    Why can't you close your browser window?
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Hillary was considered the front runner by a wide margin 6 months ago. Why couldn't she close the deal? Her campaign sucked, that's why. Get over it already, she lost. Also, quit counting Michigan! If you really think Obama would have gotten a zero, you are being very insulting to the idea of democracy.
  • Schmomama · 1 year ago
    I'm not counting Michigan, the DNC just did. Did you see the news? Obama did NOT get zero delgates from Michigan. If you don't know current facts
    why don't you just go away.
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Don't be an ass. They did not count the votes as Clinton 870k plus and Obama ZERO. If the are giving the uncommitted to Obama then he gets 576k plus and that puts him well ahead in the popular vote total. All the DNC did today is divide delegates. They didn't discuss the popular vote issue because it doesn't determine the winner of the nomination process. Jesus H! You are dense!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I forgot about that.

    And, in fact, they testified today that the write-ins were overwhelmingly in favor of Obama.

    But, again, not counted.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Why don't you go over to Hillary is 44 or Mydd or Larry Johnson's whorehouse.

    I'm sure you'll be happier there.
  • Jimbo62 · 1 year ago
    The popular vote claim is a scam. If the popular vote was the way we picked our nominees, we would do away with the caucus process because some states don't even tally the popular vote. You want to talk about disenfranchising people, which the Clinton supporters will scream all day long about, it you exclude 4 entire states from the calculation and ignore my vote completely (I am in MI and voted uncommitted), then she still doesn't have the popular vote lead. Go to RealClearPolitics.com and look at the numbers. The popular vote claim is a total scam. And the media is playing along with it.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    She doesn't have more popular votes. Pay attention!
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    What the going rate republiCON troll posts nowadays? With high gas prices, I hope for your sake you are getting paid more than the hourly wage.
  • Maude · 1 year ago
    Ding Dong the wicked witch is...
  • Ann_in_KC · 1 year ago
    He was down to needing 41 delegates and now it's 66. Wish I could say the debate is totally over about MI/FL but it might take awhile. As for Schmomama, it's nothing like 2000, why can't Clinton close the deal, and you might want to change your name to Schmobama...
  • Jimbo62 · 1 year ago
    Great coverage, Joe. Wooooooo hooooooooo it's almost over. I think Obama gave too much away, but it's nice that he is in a position to give stuff away and still win pretty big. ba bye Hillary
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    I thought Clinton's supporters and surrogates acted like real thugs.
    The women were awful. I saw Ikes for the first time, and he looked a real
    arrogant idiot. Why do these Clinton supporters act like her?
    They are really nasty people. They act as if she is the front runner and
    that she is being deprived of the nomination. Amazing.
  • Vince in Cedar Rapids · 1 year ago
    We NEED this to be behind us, and our nominee needs to start campaigning against McCain or we will LOSE. What do Hillary supporters who want to see this go to convention not understand about that fact?
  • RenoAnne · 1 year ago
    Hillary supporters WANT Grampa to win so they can run again in 2012. However many Americans die and suffer due to his Presidency be damned.
  • Grimmlok · 1 year ago
    They don't care, that's the simple reality.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    I have said this before here, but again, Hillary whole campaign reminds me of Bush's in 2000. Even her thugs were bused down for this meeting.
    She encouraged, and I am sure, must have staged the whole ugly scene.
    Shame on the Clintons.
  • mmedefarge · 1 year ago
    They didn;t have anywhere near the numbers predicted by the Shills. I don't know if that is more a function of lack of funds for her to subsidize their trips up from the double-wides, or (more likely) that there are only a few people out there who are that crazy.

    They sure put on quite a show, though.....
  • therepguy · 1 year ago
    I've said for a long time that the Hillary & Bill were fighting to retain control of the party that they through was there's... it's nice to see that the control has at long last passed to another!

    Real change is within the people's grasp at long last!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Pretty funny blog about a bar overrun by Hillbots today:


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/31/eating...
  • RenoAnne · 1 year ago
    Pretty scary actually. They have actually stooped to passing out a flyer about that psycho "gay" youtube guy whose story was proven false via lie detector? Amazing.
  • AngelaChanning · 1 year ago
    If Hillary's camp tries to contest this agreement, everyone should play the Bill Clinton tape of seating half the delegates in a loop, 24 hours a day. Sometimes those recordings work with ya, and sometimes they don't. Thanks Joe, John and Jacki for the great coverage. Even a dolt like me understood what was going on. :-)
  • FightForJustice · 1 year ago
    Thanks Joe for all the great commentary and insight today. Wow, I never thought I would spend an entire Saturday in May inside watching an RBC meeting on C-Span. And my husband watched it with me. One question, who is Don Fowler, and why is his signal to Ickes that it's over so important?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    I think he was one of Clinton's key supporters on the rules committee.

    "Donald Fowler is professor of public administration and American politics at the University of South Carolina and served as national chairman of the Democratic National Committee from 1995 to 1997. He backs Clinton. "
  • FightForJustice · 1 year ago
    Thank you!
  • Paul50 · 1 year ago
    The committee was stacked for Clinton. She had 13 supporters on board compared to Obama's 8, with 9 members that had not yet committed. The two chairs were among the uncommitted and they did not vote.

    The Obama campaign showed a very light touch while in the end getting the outcome that they wanted. Most of the talking was done by Clinton people. The Michigan motion was given by a Clinton supporter. There is no doubt, Obama has control of the Democratic Party,
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I noticed that.

    You didn't even see any Obama people around, while the Hillary big shots were making asses of themselves.

    Smooth.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    MSNBC and CNN have stopped their election coverage so I clicked to Fox and they are doing Obama's news conference in South Dakota. It's mostly about his church resignation, but some other questions, and he is so good. So truthful, measured, honest, understanding. Do you think some "fox people" might even be moved?
  • RenoAnne · 1 year ago
    Regular FOX viewers do not have hearts or minds, so no. But perhaps he can sway some undecided channel surfers.
  • stranded · 1 year ago
    Wow, talk about Hilbots. SCARY!!!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/31/eating...
  • stranded · 1 year ago
    Wow, talk about Hilbots. SCARY!!!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/31/eating...
  • stranded · 1 year ago
    Sorry about the duplicates. I'm having some internet issues today.
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    Has Hillary put out a concession statement yet? Or will she, in her delusional way, declare the committee's vote indicated they wanted her to fight all the way to Denver?
    If Hillary had one drop of statesmanship in her, she would step aside. But she doesn't. Her ego driven quest for power will destroy any chance of her ever winning the WH. Hillary, along with McSame, represent all the failures of the past.
    It's far time for a new direction, new ideas and hope for the future.

    Obama '08!
  • SilenceDogood · 1 year ago
    Great coverage today from Americablog. Thank you!!
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    This is great news! I'll be honest, I was thinking the Clintons owned the party.
  • LeesiD · 1 year ago
    I believe that the RBC made the right decision regarding MI and FL, and Chuck Todd was right on the money when he said the Clintons no longer control the Democratic Party. I loved Rep. Wexler, he is my elderly parents' congressman, and he is terrific. Barack will definitely bring the Party together, he is not whiny, he is very clear. Now I understand why he said for their not to be any protesters there for him, as the saying goes, it's better to use honey than vinegar when you want to catch flies~
  • debrazza · 1 year ago
    Well, the proposals of both states were adopted with both penalized with half their delegates stripped. Clinton has nothing to hold her hat on now. The state parties of MI and FL are satisfied. The politicians of MI and FL are satisfied. It seems clear to me that the people of MI and FL are satisfied.

    The only people unsatisfied are the Hillary Clinton "dead enders". In the next couple days we will see how many people want to stay as dead enders.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Now I need to buy an new outfit for next week!

    Time to celebrate OBAMA as the Democratic Nominee for US President!
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Yes, HURRAH!!!!
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Yes! A reason to buy a new outfit!
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    So the Supers are going to finally decide on Tuesday, right? Once all the votes are in and it's clear we have a likely nominee [which has been clear for a couple months at least]. They'll finally decide to support the nominee, right?

    As for Hillary, she'll probably appeal Michigan's four delegates all the way to the Denver convention. But she won't have a leg to stand on. Expect her to keep on campaigning and trashing Obama at least until Tuesday. Because she really really believes she's the better candidate, and, you never know, Obama may be assassinated between now and then. She's unbelievable.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    LeslieB,
    Right, Obama should have the votes by mid week sometime, BUT that doesn't mean that Hillary will stop her campaign.

    This will be curious to watch, I wonder if the media will cover her daily musings IF the Party gathers around Obama before the Convention.
  • lovepeaceandallthat · 1 year ago
    It will be interesting to watch how the media treats Hillary at this point. Can you imagine how they would treat Obama, if he were acting as she is? Losing, lost, done... but not quitting. It never would have gone on this long if Obama were abusing this democracy as she has been. She has gotten a free pass all along, up to now.

    Well, I guess she does have a chance to concede in the next few days and gain back a teensy-weensy bit of class. But I bet any concession she makes or any support of Obama she manages to give will be tainted with her ego... no, drenched in her ego. She either goes into intensive therapy, or she continues to act our her severe personality disorder (or whatever her diagnosis may be).

    Did you read today where some Clinton "insider" (can't remember who) said that "in private" Hillary says she will "campaign her heart out for Obama". If she really said that: she is either straight out lying, or lying in order to create the illusion that she intends to do such a noble thing...

    or perhaps maybe just maybe does have a heart, and this heart really will campaign for Obama in earnest. But if this were true, why the hell has she put us all through all this for months? Why not support this awesome candidate named Obama oh, say, 8 weeks ago? Nah, her "heart" is all imaginary. It is all about image. She always wants to come out on top, looking like the savior... maybe she will campaign for him but act like a nagging mother who will constantly offer him "her help" and advice. Yuck. Obama needs to stay clear of her.

    Oh my god, can you imagine having Hillary as your mother-in-law???!!!!
  • Ben Dover · 1 year ago
    At this point I will contribute to any Democratic challenger to Clinton's Senate seat.
    I hope the voters of New York retire her in favor of a real Democrat.

    Obama '08!
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Me too!
  • FightForJustice · 1 year ago
    A fabulous day just got better...Manny Rameriz just hit his 500th home run. Plus it's my 4 year anniversary. May 31, 2008 has been very, very good to me.
  • Latrell · 1 year ago
    It shows the Clintons true colors that they had the gall to make Obama denounce his faith. As an African-American, I can tell you our community is outraged. Obama was a proud member of a close-knit Christian community for over 20 years and it took a white devil to force him to denounce his brothers and sisters in Christ. Bill and Hillary, damn you for being such racist scum. The Clintons will go down in history as criminals, liars, and thieves.
  • AdmNaismith · 1 year ago
    Half votes? Since when do we even suggest that 'half voting' is something we do in this country?

    Time to disband the parties. They are doing us too much harm and they have hamstrung too much of the process and govt as a whole.
    Candidates must run on a set of stated priciples or iderals instead of hiding behind the banner of 'The Party'. I'm looking right at you Lieberman, but this covers everybody.
  • ClintonHater · 1 year ago
    Some second class citizen goes nuts:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s&eurl...
  • bkmn · 1 year ago
    Second class?

    She lives in Manhattan, a state where her vote was counted. What makes her second class? Is it the fact that her candidate is losing? or that she has lost her marbles?
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    Prepare for the Landslide Punitive Election of 2008.
  • islalvr · 1 year ago
    I watched the proceedings all day, was just glued to the teebee, and can't believe I did that. I was very happy with the outcome, but sad when I saw the way the Hillary supporters acted. I went to TalkLeft.com, which had been one of my regular blog-reads, and the commenters were so livid, they weren't even making sense. I went to TaylorMarsh.com, and couldn't believe those comments came from Democrats....it was more like Freepers posing as Dems. And, I became so sad. I used to love and admire Hillary so much....she was such a rock of the Democratic Party and of Women's issues. At one time, I was so excited that there was a good possibility of a woman in the White House, not just any woman, a woman who would change the United States and change the world. Then, slowly, her campaign seemed to morph into a republican campaign....there were just so many similarities between her campaign and the corrupt bushies. I am so sad that one of my heros fell so far off the pedestal that I put her on. I am so sad that I lost respect for a woman that I admired for so many years. But, I eagerly embrace a NEW Democratic Party, and a NEW way forward for the political process in this country. The future of this country looks bright tonight! And, I am a white woman in my 50's....a sad but happy woman (both at the same time.) Go figure.
    Ann in Louisiana
  • vwcat · 1 year ago
    I keep waiting for Hillary and Bill's heads to explode. I would love to know exactly when it occured to them that they lost the party they have had an iron grip on for almost 20 years. And what they must think that this guy, unknown outside of Illinois 4 years ago, not only beat them in the election but, in this ultimate of insiders game.
    I heard David Plouffe was there today which would explain alot. The man is a genius.
    But, wouldn't you guys just love know what the Clintons are thinking now that they know they have lost the party. The still controlled it when Gore and Kerry were the nominees but, today they lost it.
    It's Obama's party now.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I must not have been following too closely, I thought the magic number was 2,025. Now I read that it has increased, why?
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the coverage today Jacki, Joe and John.

    I am glad this was resolved but this was very embarrassing for all Democrats and this will be used against us in the General Election. Every candidate knew the rules before one vote was ever cast either in a caucus or a primary, but now it is okay to break the rules when you are losing.
    If Hillary was winning she would be saying shame on you Barack for trying to change the rules now, we have all witnessed adults having temper tantrums, Even can children set the rules at the beginning of a game and stick to them.
  • Jimbo62 · 1 year ago
    Hi ho the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead. Man, this slow death march is just killing me........we need to start the slow death march to November.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Fat lady has gargled, done some deep breathing and is now warming up in the wings, running through her scales.
  • Catsandbeer.com · 1 year ago
    funny how differently foreign press covers this - in US, it's Clinton getting what was unlikely to happen - any delegates from BS contests in MI and FL - here's BBC article "Democrat Deal is Clinton Setback" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7428909.stm)
  • jr · 1 year ago
    McCain needs to be humiliated so bad that it will discourage anyone else from running as a repub presidential candidate ever again
  • Viceroy · 1 year ago
    Bottom line: A huge percentage of Clinton women and other supporters are going to sit this one out if Obama wins. Sure there will be ceremonial statements of unity, but just like 1972 when McGovern alienated a sizable percentage of the party, this is going to be just another factor in a disaster in November. Anyone notice that Obama has resigned from his church? Now to a lot of black folks he looks like a sell-out, and he had effectively agreed with his critics that he has been wrong for twenty years for tolerating the racist and hateful rhetoric by his pastor. Doesn't say much for his judgment does it?. Anyone catch the clips of his other buddy, Rev. Michael Pfleger, and his weird nonsense? Recently polls show that virtually everyone had heard about these associations. Then add in the faux pas of Michelle Obama, and it just keeps getting better. And to think that just a few months ago I was worried. Yep, let's hope that Obama gets the nomination despite the probable desire of the majority of Democrats.
  • SociologistTina · 1 year ago
    You're right, of course, Joe!
  • KISSman · 1 year ago
    Hillary doesn't -- and never had -- an Al Gore to give it to her straight. She is surrounded by people who drink the Cool-Aid. The person who should be there to be her 'Al Gore' is Bill Clinton, but I think he might even be more driven for Hillary to be president than her. And it won't be Al Gore to give her that Al Gore phone call either.

    The Clintons see themselves as the royal couple of the Democratic Party. How can they accept being told that they should no longer be running by anyone -- let alone someone who is below them (like the former Vice President)?

    My guess is that the call will come from Nancy Pelosi. She seems the most driven to get this thing resolved and she might be the only person who Hillary might respect enough to listen to.
  • Dave of the Jungle · 1 year ago
    2 more days.
  • puffmeister · 1 year ago
    People believing that the problem arises from Hillary supporters and not from her may wish to consider this May 30 Congressional Quarterly article quoting Hillary from last week - look in particular to the last sentence. Recognizing that the DNC accepted both state plans - albeit at on-half weight, readers should think about this quote and recall that Hillary [thru her surrogate Mr. Ickes] stood alone in refusing to honor the plea of the Michigan officials to respect their allocation plan.

    http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=new...
    QUOTE Last week, Clinton indicated that she might take the fight to the convention in August if Michigan and Florida want to challenge an unfavorable ruling on their delegates. The two states were stripped of their delegates for holding early primaries; a special Democratic National Committee panel meets Saturday to decide their fate.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Clinton was asked whether she would support the states if they appeal an unfavorable rules committee decision to the convention floor, the former first lady replied:

    “Yes I will. I will, because I feel very strongly about this.”

    “I will consult with Floridians and the voters in Michigan because it’s really their voices that are being ignored and their votes that are being discounted, and I’ll support whatever the elected officials and the voters in those two states want to do.”END QUOTE
  • Smarmy · 1 year ago
    "After the Rules Committee voted, the always brilliant Rachel Maddow said, "The Clinton campaign is going to try to keep this unresolved." She's right. They can try. But, it's over. "

    The Clinton cmpaign is NOT going to let this be over. And the press hangs on their every gesture and word. They are being mean because the press is allowing them. We have been saying this for years, that Hillary is divisive, Leave her the hell alone. She's performing because she has an audience.
  • marblex · 1 year ago
    I've seen more maturity from a room full of three year olds who are able to abide by the rules they agreed to be bound by. This entire debacle makes me choke with laughter at the eternal childishness of Amurrkkan politiks.

    This sideshow is a farce. Sadly, it will be irrelevant when Cheney nukes Iran and suspends the constitution and the elections.
  • jimpharo · 1 year ago
    Can we have an accountability moment?

    These so-called leaders of the MI and FL parties have cried that dissing them will cost us their states this fail. We have just massively un-dissed them, throwing them all kinds of sops to their poor, hurt egos.

    Can we now count on them to deliver MI and FL this fall? If not, I think these people need to be help accountable for crying "wolf..."
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    I watched part of the Democratic rules committee meeting yesterday and found Senator Levin's the best presentation of Michigan's Dem party solution.
    I am pleased at the outcome although it was substantially just as forecast by various folks. Although hearing talk of a parlimentatian, I was rather surprised to see that Harold Ickes, although a member of the committee, was able to function as a clear Clinton partisan, without any questions of the propriety of this being raised. Clearly, Ickes who showed himself to be a thoroughly nasty, toxic little weasel of a man, should have been restricted to being either a partisan or a committe member. I would also say Ms. Fleurnoy also displayed this same sort of double-dipping of being clearly partisan but also retaining a committee vote. Perhaps I misunderstood and there is no requirement for the committee members to be impartial.
    If this whole debacle of penalizing for early voting and then essentially giving it back because one candidate was losing; it the remarkable lack of control exercised by the supposed party leaders such as Dean, Reid, and Pelosi; if the circus of yesterday's committee meeting; if all of these are representative of the Democratic Party, then it will be a miracle if they elect a single candidate to any office.
    I am relieved to be able to say I am not a member of the Democratic Party but rather an Independent. I was and am and will continue to be a supporter of Obama for President in 2008.
    The best thing the Democrats could do would be to expel MRs. Clinton and her serial-adulterer husband from the party. Thier actions in the campaign have been appalling. They have clearly demonstrated they are racists and liars and that nothing is too low for them if they think it might garner a few votes. And now, I am not a sexist, having commented more than one on this very blog that people are not against Mrs. Clinton because she is a woman, but because of the sort of woman she is: morally bankrupt and tied to the same old same old Wahington politics, and then there's also that pesky vote of hers for Bush's War.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    Obama is not going to unite the Democratic Party, He will lose to McCain and then all the people on this blog and its like will refuse to acknowledge that they rushed the party into a flawed candidate and blame the Clintons for the loss. I say this because I just got in from a party at a house with an Obama sign in the upper window. I assume it was the College daughter's room. But after talking to the Adults in the house I found that to a man and woman they felt that Hillary was the better Candidate, that They all felt that McCain would beat Obama, and if the Party REALLY wanted a uniter, they would convince Gore to run.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    What? Your friends put an Obama sign out but they don't want him as president? And these people have any credibility?
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    martha, can you read? Their Daughter has an Obama Sticker in her window, and her parents, true liberals have given her her right of opinion. However, they, both older and wiser, are backing Hillary.
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Can you write? "I assumed the Obama sign was a college... but found the adults were for Clinton...." What?
  • martha · 1 year ago
    Better answer - can you think? Obama will be our next president.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Well, that's scientific.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    as a biochemist, I understand that there is no connection between science and Politics. What was your point?
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    However long it took you to type this comment was time wasted. How much were you all drinking at this party?
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    we weren't drinking the Kool Ade of the Obamistas thet's for sure.
  • LunaStick · 1 year ago
    Obviously not. You were drinking the Clintonazi's Kool Ade (sic)
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    Lunatick(sic) that's why Obama will lose, because his supporters have completely turned off the people they need. We are not Nazis, we are not insane, and we vote, we have serious doubts about Obama. What has he really done besides speak well? I look at Helena Montana telling me to leave the Party, and Mirth telling me to Fuck myself, and I wonder if this is the Democratic party I first voted for in 1964. I guess it isn't . Too Bad
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I have read the Huff Post, Dkos, Firedoglake and this blog. What I have read is appalling. Clinton supporters are angry but their behavior is just over the top. Sure, be angry, be upset but for heaven's sake act rationally. Hillary, no matter how much you wanted her to win, has been behind almost the whole time. What I think I am hearing is "I will not vote for a black man" and we (Clinton supporters) are telling you neither will the country. I think you are wrong but we will see in November.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    Can you read? The Clinton supporters are not the ones calling others lunatics and Nazis and telling people to "Fuck off" This seems to be reserved for the Obama supporters. And don't throw that race card at me. "If you are against Obama, you are against Blacks" I'm against Obama because I don't think he will make a good President.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I read well enough to know that Hillary signed an agreement in August of 2007 that said she agreed with the DNC decision to not seat the Florida and Michigan delegates. I read well enough to understand Hillary is now ignoring what was agreed upon. I see and hear what some of Hillary's supporters are saying and doing, and all because the DNC rules committee punished the states that went against the agreed upon rules. I cannot understand how Hillary supporters, in view of the facts, are screaming foul. It just doesn't make any sense.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Are you on Mushrooms? 57 of them?
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    Actually, I got my degree in Mycology, and was 57 when I first started using the name.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    So then, you base your entire thought process on something ONE man and ONE woman said.

    I can see it all clearly now. You're walking around with only six teeth. Three in your mouth, and the other three in your pocket for spares.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    black wolf,
    Do you understand the nuances of the English Language? Adults is a plural that means some number more than one. To a man and woman is a statement that implies that the sentiment stated was unanimously arrived at. It does not mean that there was just one man or one woman. I
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    I do understand the nuances of the English language very well. The indvidual's response
    implied that a decision was arrived at by listening to several people. That would be
    questionable in any venue to say the least.

    Perhaps you should redirect your response.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Joe and John and Jacki, this day must have been draining for each of you, but you have very grateful readers.

    The rest...

    ~Edited by writer~
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    mush57, a flash for you:

    By a majority this country rejects Hillary and all that she and her campaign have stood for. We do not need you to elect Obama. He will win the presidency and it will be with a landslide vote.
  • mush57 · 1 year ago
    we'll see