AMERICAblog: The GOP's other new idea: Bringing back Fascism
brian
· 7 months ago
Ah yes, the Republican party trying to take over another word that they have no idea what it means. What we had under Dubya was closer to fascism than anything Obama has done. Of course, the Republican lemmings have no education, so they will keep using the word. And the term "economic fascism" is completely wrong. How can anyone have "economic fasicsm?" Maybe we should be calling them fascists since they are apparently unAmerican according to their own BS they were spewing out during the Iraq war
rexkc
· 7 months ago
I agree. The GOP was more Fascist under President Bush than the economic fixes being proposed by President Obama. Starting wars under false pretenses, labeling opposition as un-American, secret prisons, torture and claiming unitary executive powers that can't be reviewed by Congress or the courts are all things I associate with Fascism.
Its telling and sad that the GOP started this negativism and name calling after Obama had been in office just a few short weeks. It also shows the American people that the GOP isn't to be taken seriously.
Gridlock
· 7 months ago
Obama, per Rahm Emmanuel, will not prosecute former Bush admin members OR operatives for torture and murder.
A sad day. Obama has proven himself no better than the previous administration in this area. He has tacitly endorsed the use of such methods by refusing to prosecute.
FAILBAMA.
Aqualad08
· 7 months ago
Oh, stuff it purity troll...if I read the phrase "tacitly endorsed" one more time today I'm gonna hurl...
You want him to investigate? Make him...talk to them...don't come here looking for my support as you clutch your pearls and suffer from the vapors...
If you took all the decisions you made in your life it wouldn't equal one week of the effect an American President has on the lives of others, so before you go fainting over the awful trick that's been pulled on your obviously inferior sensibilities, do yourself a favor and CALL THEM...EMAIL THEM...TWEET THEM...leave me outta this...I got biger fish to fry than to listen to an aging hippy blame Obama for the crimes of Dubya....
caphillprof
· 7 months ago
We had eight years of fascism under Bush. Radical, authoritarian, nationalist, advocating a single-party state, corporatism. Indeed last week's tea parties are reminiscent of 20th century fascist gatherings in Europe.
Also, the GOP always, always engages in projection--blaming the Democrats for what they themselves are doing.
Gridlock
· 7 months ago
fascism itself, in its purest form, is corporatism.. corporations and government meshed as one... the very structure Republicans have been trying to create for the last oh, 40 years.
Why are conservatives so frigging ignorant?
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 7 months ago
the mind doesn't need to expand when the focus is only on "me" and "mine".
empireofno
· 7 months ago
corporatism didn't refer to joint-stock corporations. it referred to representing different parts of the body politic through as if they were separate entities: eg, "fathers," "the church," "workers," "owners of capital," "mothers," etc.
Chiun Nuihc
· 7 months ago
Yes, by all means, the Rethuglicans shouldn't come across as "extreme"...
grandma
· 7 months ago
lol @ liberal fascism.....so typical GOP....accuse others of what they are guilty of.
They have no solutions, no new ideas...just the same ole name calling.
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 7 months ago
liberal fascism... fall in line or we'll have the ACLU look into you?
:0)
AdrianBrowne
· 7 months ago
Why is Newt-y repeating these silly, bizarre talking points that appeal only to the fringe elements in our society? He's not stupid. What's he trying to accomplish? I know Republicans love the "death by a thousand cuts" PR strategy but they veer wildly from one crazy accusation to the complete opposite crazy accusation.
grandma
· 7 months ago
Exactly, they are looking more foolish and more desperate everyday......McCain's daughter is right:
Meghan McCain: "Old School" Republicans Are "Scared Shitless"
It appears that the GOP is basically going backwards in time in its labeling of Obama. It starts off with the most recent of America's boogeymen and proceeds from there.
Obama has been called in this order:
1) An evil liberal 2) A muslim terrorist 3) A communist 4) a socialist 5) a fascist
Soon he'll be an injun, and then Obama will be...
..THE BRITISH
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 7 months ago
hmm... the repugnicans seem to be making a case against evolution.
at least, in their party anyway.
tbhull
· 7 months ago
Rove and the repubs were using a different fascist playbook, Hitler's.
bbock
· 7 months ago
Well, some Rethuglicans think they've been "careful" to qualify it as "economic fascism" but that "restraint" is far from universal. The gloves came off and FOX News treated us to images of Obama as Hitler and signage saying that tax payers were jews for Obama's ovens--really disturbing imagery.
But if you think about it, it's standard Rethuglican politics. They did this in the White House when they managed to get the vast majority of Americans to believe that Saddam Hussein was behind or at least somehow involved with the Al Qaeda attacks on 9/11. They make a tangental relationship and let others move that relationship into parallel.
For people who understand what these terms actually mean (Fascist, Socialist, Communist) it's pretty laughable to apply them to the current government. But then most Americans think the United States is a democracy. What Rethuglicans like Newt count on is that the American people will fill in the blanks themselves if led to a particular imagery.
I hope it doesn't work. I hope they've gone too far and that this emotional coding breaks down and turns people against them.
wmforr
· 7 months ago
My God! For eight years we were told bringing up Nazi comparisons for a government that invades sovereign nations, tortures at will, spies on it's own people--that was beyond the pale!
But if someone spends some money on worthwhile public projects--he's a fascist?
As long as we're allowed to redefine all words except "marriage", can we decide that Satanist is the proper term for fundamentalists?
JamesR
· 7 months ago
Typical projection and using of big words they don't understand. As if their history education consisted solely of watching Hogan's Heroes.
An excellent post on the subject was done by Dave on the blog Ornicus here: "Glenn Beck's 'Liberal Fascism Hour': Revising history as Newspeak April 11, 2009" http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/04/glenn-beck...
Oval12345678
· 7 months ago
There have been al least four corporatist fascist dictatorships in the 20th and 21st centuries. Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany and Bush's US.
Indigo
· 7 months ago
"Is there really a right way to use the term "fascism"? It only sounds extreme. And, I don't think most Americans even know what it means. " I think you're right, Americans . . . socially conservative, Republican-voting Americans anyhow . . . have no idea what a fascist is or how very close to fascism their own ideas are.
jcdinform
· 7 months ago
I see the Journalist shills are still trying to Make the Tea party protests into the false left-Right Paradigm distraction as instructed by their Elitist masters.
All Comments
Its telling and sad that the GOP started this negativism and name calling after Obama had been in office just a few short weeks. It also shows the American people that the GOP isn't to be taken seriously.
A sad day. Obama has proven himself no better than the previous administration in this area. He has tacitly endorsed the use of such methods by refusing to prosecute.
FAILBAMA.
You want him to investigate? Make him...talk to them...don't come here looking for my support as you clutch your pearls and suffer from the vapors...
If you took all the decisions you made in your life it wouldn't equal one week of the effect an American President has on the lives of others, so before you go fainting over the awful trick that's been pulled on your obviously inferior sensibilities, do yourself a favor and CALL THEM...EMAIL THEM...TWEET THEM...leave me outta this...I got biger fish to fry than to listen to an aging hippy blame Obama for the crimes of Dubya....
Also, the GOP always, always engages in projection--blaming the Democrats for what they themselves are doing.
Why are conservatives so frigging ignorant?
They have no solutions, no new ideas...just the same ole name calling.
:0)
Meghan McCain: "Old School" Republicans Are "Scared Shitless"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/18/meghan...
Obama has been called in this order:
1) An evil liberal
2) A muslim terrorist
3) A communist
4) a socialist
5) a fascist
Soon he'll be an injun, and then Obama will be...
..THE BRITISH
at least, in their party anyway.
But if you think about it, it's standard Rethuglican politics. They did this in the White House when they managed to get the vast majority of Americans to believe that Saddam Hussein was behind or at least somehow involved with the Al Qaeda attacks on 9/11. They make a tangental relationship and let others move that relationship into parallel.
For people who understand what these terms actually mean (Fascist, Socialist, Communist) it's pretty laughable to apply them to the current government. But then most Americans think the United States is a democracy. What Rethuglicans like Newt count on is that the American people will fill in the blanks themselves if led to a particular imagery.
I hope it doesn't work. I hope they've gone too far and that this emotional coding breaks down and turns people against them.
But if someone spends some money on worthwhile public projects--he's a fascist?
As long as we're allowed to redefine all words except "marriage", can we decide that Satanist is the proper term for fundamentalists?
An excellent post on the subject was done by Dave on the blog Ornicus here: "Glenn Beck's 'Liberal Fascism Hour': Revising history as Newspeak April 11, 2009" http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/04/glenn-beck...
I think you're right, Americans . . . socially conservative, Republican-voting Americans anyhow . . . have no idea what a fascist is or how very close to fascism their own ideas are.