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AMERICAblog: The last thing the McCain campaign campaign should be doing is dropping 'gambling' metaphors

  • bluestockton · 1 year ago
    Just saw (again) the commercial in which McCain promises to "fix Wall Street" and boasts "I've fought tougher guys than this before."

    Yeah, John, we know. And which side won that fight?
  • scytherius · 1 year ago
    Oh yes. The way to win the hearts and minds of America . . . blame the press.
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    I think the GOP meltdown is spreading. Dallas is losing to Washington IN Dallas! Not over yet, but I hope it's an omen of things to come...
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    John, more than likely McCain's "work exposing Abramoff" was a way to control information getting out that would have screwed his run for President... or are you forgetting that McCain's all about what's best for McCain?
  • michaelt · 1 year ago
    CRAPS!
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    OT

    With apologies if you've already seen it.

    I just received this, and the author seems to be a very credible source:


    MY HOLIDAY WITH JOHN McCAIN

    It was just before John McCain's last run at the presidential nominati on in 2000 that my husband and I vacationed in Turtle Island in Fiji with John McCain, Cindy, and their children, including Bridget (their adopted Bangladeshi child).
    It was not our intention, but it was our misfortune to be in close quarters with John McCain for almost a week, since Turtle Island has a small number of bungalows and their focus on communal meals force all vacationers who are there at the same time to get to know each other intimately.
    He arrived at our first group meal and started reading quotes from a pile of William Faulkner books with a forest of Post-Its sticking out of them. As an English Li terature major myself, my first thought was 'if he likes this so much, why hasn't he memorized any of this yet?' I soon realized that McCain actually thought we had come on vacation to be a volunteer audience for his 'readings' which then became a regular part of each meal. Out of politeness, none of the vacationers initially protested at this intrusion into their blissful holiday, but people's buttons definitely got pushed as the readings continued day after day.
    Unfortunately this was not his only contribution to our mealtime entertainment. He waxed on during one meal about how Indo-Chine women had the best figures and that our American corn-fed women just couldn't meet up to this standard. He also made it a point that all of us should stop Cindy from having dessert as her weight was too high and made a few comments to Amy, the 25 year old wife of the honeymooning couple from Nebraska that she should eat less as she needed to lose weight.
    McCain's appreciation of the beauty of Asian women was so great that David the American economist had to move his Thai wife to the other side of the table from McCain as McCain kept aggressively flirting with and touching her.
    Needless to say I was irritated at his large ego and his rude behavior towards his wife and other women, but decided he must have some redeeming qualities as he had adopted a handicapped child from Bangladesh. I asked him about this one day, and his response was shocking: 'Oh, that was Cindy's idea – I didn't have anything to do with it. She just went and adopted this thing without even asking me. You can't imagine how people stare when I wheel this ugly, black thing around in a shopping cart in Arizona . No, it wasn't my idea at all.'
    I actively avoided McCain after that, but unfortunately one day he engaged me in a political discussion which soon got us on the topic of the active US bombing of Iraq at that time. I was shocked when he said, 'If I was in charge, I would nuke Iraq to teach them a lesson'. Given McCain's personal experience with the horrors of war, I had expected a more balanced point of view. I commented on the tragic consequences of the nuclear attacks on Japan during WWII –- but no, he was not to be dissuaded. He went on to say that if it was up to him he would have dropped many more nucle ar bombs on Japan. I rapidly extricated myself from this conversation as I could tell that his experience being tortured as a POW didn't seem to have mellowed out his perspective, but rather had made him more aggressive and vengeful towards the world.
    My final encounter with McCain was on the morning that he was leaving Turtle Island. Amy and I were happily eating pancakes when McCain arrived and told Amy that she shouldn't be having pancakes because she needed to lose weight. Amy burst into tears at this abusive comment. I felt fiercely protective of Amy and immediately turned to McCain and told him to leave her alone. He became very angry and abusive towards me, and said, 'Don't you know who I am.' I looked him in the face and said, 'Yes, you are the biggest asshole I have ever met' and headed back to my cabin. I am happy to say that later that day when I arrived at lunch I was given a standing ovation by all the guests for having stood up to McCain's bullying.
    Although I have shared my McCain story informally with friends, this is the first time I am making this public. I almost did so in 2000, when McCain first announced his bid for the Republican nomination, but it soon became apparent that George Bush was the shoo-in candidate and so I did not act then. However, now that there is a very real possibility that McCain could be elected as our next president, I feel it is my duty as an American citizen to share this story. I can't imagine a m ore scary outcome for America than that this abusive, aggressive man should lead our nation. I have observed him in intima te surroundings as he really is, not how the media portrays him to be. If his attitudes toward women and his treatment of his own family are even a small indicator of his real personality, then I shudder to think what will happen to America were he to be elected as our President.
    --
    Mary-Kay Gamel
    Professor of Classics, Comparative Literature, and Theater Arts
    Cowell College
    University of California, Santa Cruz
    Santa Cruz, California 95064
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Wow......just wow....
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    nothing on snopes.com about this, but something seems off on this. I don't buy it.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    even if it's a total load of crap, McCain's behavior over the course of this campaign portrays a man that's just like the one in the letter...
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Mary Kay Gamel is listed as faculty on the University of California, Santa Cruz web site. It seems odd that a letter like that is just circulating on the web like a leaf on the surface of a lake, but she's a legitimate source and her story portray an outrageous bully at his most offensive. Interesting. Oddly enough, she is not listed in the directory of the Modern Language Association, the largest and most liberally progressive professional organization in her field. I hope she's got tenure where she is. Things like that tend to ricochet in very odd ways in Academe.
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    I found a .edu e-mail address for her; she's easy to Google. I'll be interested to see if she replies.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I just posted on this subject again. See above.
  • Ellie49 · 1 year ago
    I found this on The American Prospect:

    I am not the author of the McCain vacation story. I have never been to Turtle Island. The author is (apparently) a woman named Anasuya Dubey, who lives in San Francisco.

    Posted by: Mary-Kay Gamel

    http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archi...
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    She replied to me. I'll forward to John.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Thanks very much for looking this up. The item certainly casts doubt on the validity of what I received.
    I have a telephone number and e-mail address for Gamel which I did not post, just in case, and I will send her a note and get back to you.
    I will also reply to the person who forwarded me the letter.
  • dacnova · 1 year ago
    This is fake. I Googled the supposed author and forwarded her response to John.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Thanks to you, too, for looking this up. I sent Gamel an e-mail and I will share her reply.
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    WHY when corporations buy-out, rescue, or takeover failing businesses, do they purchase ALL the assets, good, bad, and neutral.

    WHY are American taxpayers being asked to shell out $700 billion to BUY JUST THE CRAP?
  • Wild_Weasel · 1 year ago
    WHY doesn't Congress adopt a BOTTOM UP rescue plan that starts at the individual failing mortgage,, instead of TOP DOWN.

    TRICKLE DOWN DOESN'T WORK.

    This is the biggest fraud and theft in history.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    Re McCain/Turtle Island vacation.
    DailyKos had a post about it on Sept. 22. They published the letter with Anasuya Dubey listed as author. Dubey had some good references, but it sounds like this is at least a problem publication.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/22/84013/3...
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    It's disturbing to think that someone fished that letter out of the sewer, put Professor Gamel's name on it, and redistributed it.
  • hawkseye · 1 year ago
    I received a response from Gamel, and it seems that use of her name was accidental. She was merely on the list of recipients. Apparently the author is a San Francisco clinical psychologist with a good reputation. I posted Gamel's response, but someone has removed it from this thread. There are still some things in the letter that don't add up, but there are many things that ring true. In an exchange Gamel had with someone else, he/she suggested that NBC was looking into the matter. So, I think we will hear more about this---on the blogs or elsewhere.