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AMERICAblog: The religious right feels betrayed by Obama

  • example · 9 months ago
    I don't know, lately it seems like he's given up on trying to be loved by the right, or at least has given up on the whole 'let's be bipartisan' thing. It didn't work on stimulus, it won't work for this other stuff they're trying to do.

    As far as stem cells, really? Stem Cell research is pretty popular with most people, and laws supporting it passed in republican houses, I think. They were vetoed by Bush.
  • naschkatzehussein · 9 months ago
    Yes, they were. The public is on Obama's side on this one.
  • larry · 9 months ago
    The Politico article is a BS article based on a BS premise. Ahhh to make fire where there is none.....most evangelical christians are not nearly as stupid as the evangelical leadership and yes the media think they are.....those of the evangelical right voted for Obama for lots of reasons other than abortion and stem cell research because they are not deft and dumb. They do understand job creation and they have a deep respect for honesty and candor...both were reason that people I know who call themselves evangelicals..and there are lots of em in NC....voted for Obama. .They did not agree with him on all issues but appreciated his economic leadership and yes his honesty and candor. That is...his willingness to come clean on abortion and stem cell from the get go. Not lie about a a blow job in the WH or non existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So the leadership and the republican Politico writers can yammer on but they are as guilty as most who are in DC and tone deft to the rest of the country.
  • Dusty · 9 months ago
    Great post Larry!

    For a while I thought being 'stupid' was a prerequisite for being a Republican. Glad to see that it is not always the case and that some of our republican brothers and sisters 'can' think on their feet and make their own decisions.

    Thanks for sharing.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 9 months ago
    Yesterday the cable news talking heads seemed well, mystified, that President Obama is doing things differently from George Bush. They furrowed their brows (those that could because they weren't botoxed), pitched their voices higher, and uptalked their "concern" that Bush's "legacy" could be overturned.

    They all seem to ignore that this is what happens in democratically-elected countries.
  • tbhull · 9 months ago
    The religious right always feels betrayed. Their condition requires it.
  • anastasjoy · 9 months ago
    So, "healing the cultural divisions" to them means ripping them wide open by giving them everything they want even though they represent a sliver of a minority of opinion on these issues, especially on something like stem-cell research, where they're radically out of step with the rest of the country? These people need a serious dose of reality. MOST people support stem-cell research. Nancy REAGAN supports stem-cell research. These people don't get — or deliberately are pretending they don't get — that "bipartisanship" doesn't mean abandoning the huge majority of Democrats and independents who are opposed to their ultra-radical stances.
  • larry · 9 months ago
    And for the record those evangelicals that Obama wants to love...made a difference at the polls both in the primary and the general in States like Virginia, Indiana and North Carolina. As for him wanting there love...why not...likely got him some serious electoral votes . He is after all the President of all the people, Red States and Blue states......
  • Cats · 9 months ago
    The evangelicals in Indiana that agreed with Obama on other things but could not vote for him because of his views on abortion voted for the third party candidate. I keep hoping those folks will stop being one or two issue voters the next time we have an election.
  • Blueflash · 9 months ago
    Keep hoping. The notion that evangelicals are moderating on culture war issues seems to me to be largely liberal wishful thinking and an attempt by the mainstream media, as usual, to depict them in the best possible light, now that eight years of "What would Jesus Do" Bush have done so much to discredit their movement.
  • sgwhiteinfla · 9 months ago
    I don't think President Obama wants to be loved by the right. He wants them to give him a fair shake. Everyone wants to paint anything he does that looks or sounds even the least bit conservative of some kind of ploy with out noticing that maybe its really what he believes. He overturned the stim cell ban when people on the left were starting to get antsy and predicting he never would after only 7 weeks in office. He has pretty much followed through on all of his campaign promises. The wife of the President that the Right just can't get enough of of, Nancy Reagan, came out in support of the move. Almost 60% of Americans support embryonic stem cell research. People who are upset weren't paying attention. They want to lie as if they EVER supported the man or EVER voted for him or EVER weren't calling him a socialist to make it seem like he "changed". No he has been entirely consistent. And by the way, I don't think you should elevate the GOPolitico as some kind of credible news source. If the NY Times or even the Washington Post had published as man patently wrong articles as the GOPolitico has just in the last 3 months they would have been out of business long ago. But for some reason people keep cutting them some slack. They are the political version of TMZ nothing more and maybe a little less.
  • Older_Wiser · 9 months ago
    Screw the hard right. It's obvious they know they've lost support of many during the Bush years and have ramped up the rhetoric against Obama's prescriptions for America. Obama did have me concerned at first, with his "bipartisan" talk and some of his appointments, but luckily, he's a much better read of political tea leaves than I am, and a better practitioner of politics. He knows full well how the right will try to obstruct him, but he also knows he has majority approval for his actions, and manages to slay the dragons with a smile on his face.

    People need hope, he provides it, and I'll bet he proves to be one of the greatest presidents of all time.
  • curlytoes79 · 9 months ago
    Sorry, right-wingers. To the winner goes the spoils. The next time your candidate wins, you can enact laws that YOU like, m'kay?
  • Gridlock · 9 months ago
    Yeah, but their laws tend to fuck over the already living.
  • Jayne Z · 9 months ago
    That's for sure! I don't see all these right to lifers helping Nadia Suleman's children!!!!!
  • SurrealPumpkin · 9 months ago
    No! Not ok, I'll fight tooth and nail any attmepts to theocratize the nation. m'kay?
  • curlytoes79 · 9 months ago
    What?
  • foxy · 9 months ago
    Funny Australian Show laughing at homophobic America :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obri6-6w238
  • TomJoad · 9 months ago
    Obama didn't run on the platform "CHANGE....but..um, just a little bit, and ONLY if the folks that have run this all into the ground for the last eight or more years agree"
  • Steve_in_CNJ · 9 months ago
    yep the RR and their media supporters are playing the president. they think they see an opening that obama created and are giving it a try. when you want to preserve intensely unpopular policies, you have no other options than to try to get inside the president's head. in obama's defense, what the RR see as an opening probably won't be an opening for several more years. that's enough time to replace all the extremists with moderate voices. or at least that's the plan. it's a plan that takes years, not months.
  • DCKate · 9 months ago
    What does reducing the number of abortions have to do with stem cell research? Just because he's allowing the research doesn't mean he all the sudden doesn't want to reduce abortions. It's a complete non sequitor. I can't stand when people attempt to argue with such faulty logic.
  • Donna · 9 months ago
    I am sure that religious right conservatives and many Republicans need a class in American Civics.
    1. President Obama won this election because the majority of Americans preferred his ideas (clearly expressed during the campaign).
    2. That means he now has an opportunity to put his ideas into practice.
    3. If you do not like those ideas, you may speak out, however, most of us do like his ideas and do want them put into practice.
    4. Now the "others" know how I felt for 32 of the last 40 years.
  • larz69 · 9 months ago
    Everytime I hear the right wing whiners I recall how miserable and angry I was for the last eight years. I start to feel sorry for them and then come to my senses. It's payback time and they need to be marginalized and ignored for a while. Everytime they complain they need to be reminded that "their" president ruined this country with "their" policies and agendas.
  • PorridgeGun · 9 months ago
    I said after the Rick Warren unpleasantness that if Obama didn't get a significant increase in the evangelical vote, that the Democrats should give it a rest trying to appeal to these people. And that was BEFORE Warren's horrific performance at the inauguration. Abortion is their #1 issue, it trumps everything else. The Democrats will always be the party that sides with a women's right to privacy.

    Of course, Obama did get some young evangelicals voting for him, and that's great.
  • Gridlock · 9 months ago
    oh WHO CARES. Wingnuttery with Jebus used as justification should be regarded as any other mental disorder. It should be treated with medication, therapy or in the most extreme cases locked in an institution.

    These people are brain damaged, not 'religious'
  • Karen S. · 9 months ago
    Hello, one and all! I've been lurking here for a few months and now I'm moved to jump into the fray and comment.
    Anyway, I've been puzzled by this tendency, too, of certain groups to be surprised, shocked even, that Pres. Obama has said or done something that he said he was going to do while he was campaigning. Were they paying attention? Or did they just hear what they wanted to hear?
  • An_American_Karol · 9 months ago
    Welcome, Karen. I'm glad you decided to jump in. ; )
  • PorridgeGun · 9 months ago
    That's not to say the people attacking Obama now (aka the Rapture Right) over stem cell research are the ones he was trying to appeal to during the campaign. He always said those people would never vote for him, and he didn't want their vote. His aim was to appeal to young environmentally conscious evangelicals.
  • UncleGlenny · 9 months ago
    Can someone please put Politico out of its misery? Pretty please?
  • ruserious · 9 months ago
    Yes, I feel you on this note. Politico can go to @3ll with their bull.
  • NavyMom44 · 9 months ago
    Well hell's bells they should've listened to ALL he said not just what they wanted to hear...he specifically stated he would reverse stem cell ban, he specifically said he would separate church from state, he specifically said he will not allow his personal religion interfere with how he governs, he spefically said he would follow the Constitution.

    They need to check their hearing because on the issues they are crying about he is doing exactly what he said he would
  • Linda · 9 months ago
    Always watch and remember their agenda! As long as Obama is popular they have difficulty in obstructing him...so they are now actively from all points trying to tarnish his image to make him less popular, then they can go in for the jugular. The religious right has never been for Obama, and all of the rhetoric the Right Wingnuts are doing, of which the MSM so joyfully report is to detract, distract, and subvert President Obama and the Democratic Congress. That's all.
  • PorridgeGun · 9 months ago
    Politico sucks balls.
  • ndtovent · 9 months ago
    awww booo f*****g hoooo... Let em go start their own privatized, theocratic nation.
  • Kevin · 9 months ago
    Why, oh WHY can't the Dems run with this? I can hear Obama now: "I am fulfilling pledges that I made to the American people during my campaign. I was elected by a significant majority the American people, who knew my views. If I must choose with whom to stand--an increasingly obstructionist Republican party, or the public--then I will stand with the American people every single time. I challenge the Republicans to make the same choice."
  • LuZenMyMnd · 9 months ago
    Mindless Republicans. Animated Cartoon
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/c...
  • tracy · 9 months ago
    so .....tired.......of .......republicans.
    seriously, are they here from another planet to sabotage our political system so they can take over and turn us all into rush limbaugh clones??
    oh, but then they would be FOR stem cell research. I guess they are just stupid aliens as well.
  • Jimbo · 9 months ago
    You are quoting Politico after all. That outfit was set up by former Reagan admin officials to pump out GOP talking points and slander Dems. Just remember "its getting ugly out there" - JMart.
  • athena123 · 9 months ago
    The religious right SHOULD BE APOLOGIZING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE instead of trying to cause trouble for the only person trying to fix the mess!!!! It was christian evangelicals who got Bush elected TWICE because faith is more important to them than competence or moral standards. Now, they have the NERVE to speak up when they are largely responsible for the devastation of the economy; over 100,000 dead in an illegal and unnecessary war (that Bush lied about to the American people); he executed more prisoners than anyone before him; he treated the Constitution like it was a list of SUGGESTIONS. He stopped science in its tracks and pushed R&D in America (including green cars, alternative fuel, medical research) years back (and we are now years behind other countries). He was a one-man wrecking machine. And now the evangelicals want to create another Bush - same ridiculous policies based on superstition rather than common sense, compassion, and reason. It's time for the EVANGELICALS TO SHUT UP AND LET THE ADULTS TO THEIR JOB PICKING UP AFTER THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
  • ruserious · 9 months ago
    I can't wait for the day Obama walks out to the podium and pulls his pants down and tell the Republicans to kiss his azz.
  • slappymagoo · 9 months ago
    Is the Religious Right under the impression that Obama was hoping to reduce the number of abortions performed in the country by making them illegal? Because unless that is exactly what they would happen, they're either stupid or disengenuous.

    Obama hopes to reduce the number of abortions performed in the country by making America live up to its kick'ass potential; this way a: fewer unwanted and unplanned pregnancies will occur, because more people will be smart enough to use birth control and b: more of those unwanted and unplanned pregnancies that DO occur will be carried to term, because America will be too kick-ass of a country NOT to bring more children in to in order to contribute to its kick-assedness. The Religious Right Republicans could help us achieve that goal, if they weren't so busy being petty and snide and whiny mewling jackasses.
  • ndtovent · 9 months ago
    I'm glad they feel betrayed. I've felt betrayed for the last EIGHT f*****g YEARS, ever since the scotus handed the presidency to that loser (what was name again??) in 2000!
  • Henry · 9 months ago
    Politico wrote "Monday’s decision seemed to put even greater distance between himself and top congressional Republicans." Are they joking? Is this another of the republican party's fantasy worlds? I amazes me how people that make a living at communicating can comprehend so little when they are given information.
  • katiec · 9 months ago
    This is news?
    The religious right never supported anything President Obama stands for. They have their narrow minded agenda which does not include the rights of the American people.
    Am as tired of them as I am all republicans.
  • MOJO3 · 9 months ago
    Three words: GET A LIFE!!!!
  • truebluecoondog · 9 months ago
    Hey Cantor, LIFE is not a right - it's a priviledge. Like health care.

    It does not matter what Obama BELIEVES for himself and his family, he is the President of ALL of the people and he understands that. It's a lesson that the "religious" right needs to learn. The LAW needs to be flexible enough to accomodate ALL of the people's needs and wants whenever possible. If an option exists, it does not mean that YOU have to take it. If you can't be disciplined enough to make your own choices that honor your own beliefs, then that's a personal problem.
  • KerrynowCampau · 9 months ago
    Great comment and right on!
  • LuZenMyMnd · 9 months ago
    You are so Absolutely correct!

    Thank God that the President understands that. The problem w/these religious right people is they want to legislate their religious convictions on the rest of the US and world. They're as bad as the Islamic extremeist they preach against.

    We're in trouble w/the middle east (heathen lands) because we've suggested the US is superior to other (uncivilized) nations and we're the power that knows what's best for them.

    Even God gave Adam and Eve the RIGHT to Chose.
  • Major Domo · 9 months ago
    God gave them and their descendants free will - the option to choose. Unfortunately, the religious right seems not have skipped over that in their interpretation of the bible.
  • LuZenMyMnd · 9 months ago
    They're making themselves a god. No wonder the good thinking people of the world are fleeing from them.
  • LanceThruster · 9 months ago
    So I guess they've pretty much gotten over that Obama's a "closet Muslim?"

    Maybe they'd be happier if he instituted Sharia law. Nothing like a little religulous law and order.
  • mcfail · 9 months ago
    When the republicans/freepers stop calling for the assassination of various political figure heads and citizens, I will maybe take what they say about pro-life a little more serious.

    Until then, Id prefer to have stem cells save me from cancer or fix a lost limb if it should ever god forbid happen to me.
  • Rob Mule · 9 months ago
    Jack Welch yesterday on MSNBC said Mr. Obama was "supposedly elected"...Sounds, to me, like the kind of slippery slope less wealthy elitists might travel to end in some sort of looney corporate assassination plot...I pray the Secret Service pays as much attention to rich loons as they do to average ones.
  • JT · 9 months ago
    This isn't news and shame on any media outlet for acting like it is. President Obama was very clear that he would reverse the Bush position on stem cell research. Isn't honesty a Christian value anymore?
  • Rob Mule · 9 months ago
    Lord! This endless winger repetition, this disinfo waterboarding (or TVboarding) that failed so miserably in the campaign with its terror bump, crazy preachers and 60s radicals is re-re- resurrected in a feeble and febrile attempt to re-re-launch the floppy gasbag of lighter than air corn-servatism.
    The media and still limping winger debris need to be confronted and asked "Why do you hate the people of America?", "Why do you want America to fail or greatly reduce the scope of our great new President's agenda for American uplift?, ""Why the constant winger bitching and failure to focus of the positives?"
    CNN, last week, sent a crew to St Louis where the mayor was bitching about his city's small amount of recovery money. After an anchor lede that implied Mr. Obama was frittering the money on unimportant projects like a small State roadway bridge just outside metro St. Louis without any mention or marvel at Federal dollars arriving in a locality ONE WEEK after Obama signed the bill, the package made an interesting discovery...Recovery money is directed first at the greatest need. The little bridge was heavily traveled by scores of 18-wheelers (just during the length of the package) as the surprised reported noted. As the reporter interviewed a person with the bridge above the interview site, a huge chunk of concrete and metal came crashing down quite near the reporter as a large truck sped across the bridge. The reporter exclaimed that perhaps this bit of recovery WAS greatly needed. Not so surprisingly, I've not watched CNN travel to other localities that might actually conflict with imaginary Beltway scripting...
  • Greensburg · 9 months ago
    The religious right feels betrayed by Obama and God feels betrayed by the religious right. Guess call it even.
  • Scottsdalian · 9 months ago
    Hey religious whackjobs -- do us all a favor and stick with your republicans. We don't want you on our team.
  • David Ferdi/Bklyn New York · 9 months ago
    It is so shamefully and audaciously evident ,that people representing republican and conservative views resort to non-substance when blogging. They refer to name calling: (osama) instead of Obama. They say things about his wife.
    I find it interesting that they hardly address the topic at hand. They divert to other items such as: Rev wright, Terrorist, Blah Blah Blah...seems to me that they are fools. The Bible states in Proverbs: it is the fool who is always talking Crap!!!!
    I must say that it has become also obvious that the American people are getting smarter by not letting the media decide for them. The media is doing less reporting and more OPINION. I watch C-span for truth, and watch media just to see their bias views, and their verbal strategy when they protect their interest (money and/or Israel) . Most people accept as gospel, the mix of a little truth and a lot of lies.
    I find that President Obama is sticking to his game plan...It is time to shake things up.
    We need policy change in the mid-east crisis firstly, Secondly, to those who bear blame on President Obama for our current, economic, domestic, foreign ,financial, military CRISIS... you are people who will walk through life in denial about truth... may God open your eyes about who you are, and about reality...
  • Scottsdalian · 9 months ago
    "to those who bear blame on President Obama for our current, economic, domestic, foreign ,financial, military CRISIS"

    Bush throws the man off the top of the building..........Obama gets blamed when the man goes splat on the pavement.

    Yeah...that'll work. Thank God most Americans are simply not that stupid!
  • BILL · 9 months ago
    WANNA BET HOW STUPID SOME AMERICANS ARE?
  • EmGD · 9 months ago
    God bless the media. For eight years legitimate anger about the war, unconstitutional acts, and general criminality were dismissed as partisan, juvenile, and not taken seriously. But the second someone with an R next to their name gets made about an overt promise being followed through on that a majority of the country supports, then by Jesus the media must let everyone know about the righteous outrage. You gotta love the media. I mean hate, hate the media.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
  • MichaelS · 9 months ago
    "The hope is that by whining about how much he's betrayed them..."

    yeah, that's worked great for Obama's ALLIES, like us in the gay community, hasn't it?
  • tlsintx · 9 months ago
    the religious right can suck it.
  • lucy2008 · 9 months ago
    Wow. What a bunch of poppycock here.

    President Obama has kept his word. You need to go back and take another look. His methods for lowering the number of abortions in our country is by making broad and cheap availability of contraceptives WITH effective family planning education counseling. This approach works. Medical case studies worldwide have shown this approach is the most effective approach. It profoundly lowers the rate of unwanted pregnancies and makes abortion rare and safe.

    Increased funding for the above was originally part of the stimulus package but the Republicans made such a bad noise about this, it was pulled out. Now this is part of new budgets. Let's see what happens again.

    Our new President is doing what he said he'd do. Stop making things up.
  • Ed Sommers · 9 months ago
    Just so you know, regardless of Obama's interest in working with the religious right, there are some Obama supporters who have no interest in seeing the religious right be placated. We think the religious right is wrong on their so-called "pro-life" positions. We think embryonic stem cell research should be supported with taxpayer dollars. There are plenty of babies who need to be adopted. If the religious right supports adoption, lets see them adopt the children that need to be adopted. There will always be plenty of babies that need to be adopted, particularly since the religious right opposes teaching birth control and contraception. God bless these people...and God save us from his supporters.
  • KarenT · 9 months ago
    "some" Obama supporters? No....almost all. Also I refer to it as anti-choice now as pro-life means all life, not just life in the womb. These people don't seem to care about life after it's out of the womb. They are pro-war, pro-death sentence and as you point out, do nothing to take care of these babies once they are born.
  • RNB · 9 months ago
    There are so few of them why does it matter. Maybe the religious right should brake off and for their own party. Preferably in another country.
  • yellow crane · 9 months ago
    "There are so few of them why does it matter. Maybe the religious right should brake off and start their own party. Preferably in another country."

    To which country would you wish such abhorance?

    One is reminded of the history of the Puritans, and how they encountered your "preferably in another country."

    Historically, in America, we learn that the poor Puritans were persecuted in Europe, and fled for their safety to America. But Gore Vidal corrects the planted saccharine revisionism by revealing that Puritans were Puritans--that is to say, more cultish than cultured, fanatical in their righteousness, and in-your-face in their tactics, employed in the unfinishable game of purity-testing which always creshendoes into inquisition. Collectively the populace, much less steroidal in spiritual perspective, had had quite enough, and, borrowing an old timey tactic of the Puritans themselves, shunned them, never through persecution, but by sane confrontations which matured from the naive ends of their tolerance and their endless bending over with deference.

    While we inwardly envision the Puritans standing on the beach like little holy figures standing on a cake, the reality is that they wasted little time in structuring their inquisitions after encountering various American Native tribes, who greeted the Pilgrims with openness and friendliness. The Puritans responded in kind by pronouncing them savages, and proceeded to torture them, burn them at the stake, without mercy, adults and children alike.

    Too bad it is irrevokably politically incorrect to mention the word 'facism' in America, or associations could be suggested.
  • PippaPasses · 9 months ago
    Let's get on with the whole Equality thing while there's still time!
  • Blueflash · 9 months ago
    Of course the religious right doesn't actually feel betrayed. Just as liberals didn't feel betrayed by Bush's promise to be a "uniter, not a divider" because we knew it was bullshit; we knew W drew his support from the theocratic right, that they regarded him as one of them, and that that's how he derailed McCain's campaign. But maybe they did take his pointless outreach to them with his Warren and McClurkin dalliances and his continuing support of Bush's unconstitutional faith-based initiative as a sign of weakness, that he could be intimidated. That wouldn't be surprising because we liberals were beginning to fear the same thing. It seems more likely now that Obama does in fact understand that in the culture wars there really is no middle ground and that his base won't settle for Republican Lite and that unlike during the Clinton years we're empowered by the internet.The best they can ever hope for is that through constant ranting and railing and playing the victim they can still scare him into generally avoiding social issues altogether and nominating less liberal judges.
  • nellieh · 9 months ago
    When you have US Senators and Representatives that do not believe in evolution how can you expect them, and their constituents, the religious rightwing nutsos, to believe in science? The Republican's are painting themselves into the proverbial corner which is a metaphor for the South and a few Western States. It's alright with me. I hope they keep on keepin' on.
  • Allison · 9 months ago
    Americans are so idiotic and complain and whine about everything. You guys should move to a more civilised country like us up here in canada where our systems do not mix religion with politics the Govt takes care of health care and our politicians have brains and are educated. That is why Canada is known around the world as a Financial giant and great in Financial Management.

    There is too much self interest in your country and yu do not care about your people.

    Everybody is an analyst. It is time you guys check your self and realise we are in the 21st century. Leave Obama alone he is the best thing to happen to you people. He is bright and can walk and chew gum at the same time. I guess you guys are so used to stupid leades you cannot even appreciate a good thing when you see it -Go figure.

    Even GM does better in canada they are not saddled with health care cost as in America.Smarten up people.Stop blaming and get back on Track.
  • ScratchinMyHead · 9 months ago
    Why is there any kind of "faith based" spending at all? It would be the first thing I cut 100% of the funding for. Then, as the ELECTED president - as opposed to the weak and stupid shaved monkey retard we had for eight years - I'd take away the tax exempt status for any church that mentions the first thing "political" to their flock of brain dead sheeple. Preach your fake invisible cloud being to the simple minded masses too weak to believe in themselves, but keep politics and your political opinion out of your poorly written one dementional fairy tales or open your books to taxation. It's that simple.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 9 months ago
    The danger here is that the religious right, including Catholic activists, are playing Obama. They know he wants to be loved by the right, and they know that he went particularly out of his way to woo religious conservatives. The hope is that by whining about how much he's betrayed them, perhaps they can get Obama to veer more to the right on "culture war" issues.

    ----

    anyone want to lay odds that the GLBT community gets thrown under the bus ala Clinton?

    keep watching for the DADT and DOMA promises to just fade away... as it is, Pelosi is already talking about how they need to get the votes to repeal DADT before bringing it to the table...

    get the votes?? huh? who's in the majority again?

    .
  • Major Domo · 9 months ago
    You really are as clueless as you write.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 9 months ago
    are you responding to me or LuZenMyMnd??
  • LuZenMyMnd · 9 months ago
    "wants to be loved by the right"

    Are you serious???? President Obama is a great humanitarian, shrewd politician coupled w/an intellectual strategy that is unmatched by most. Do you REALLY BELIEVE he was Expecting them to LOVE him? He targeted who and what he wanted during the campaign.

    Now that he is delivering on specific campaign pledges the right are all up in arms. He is ONLY doing what he said he would do. The right needs to realize, EVERYONE is not going to be happy w/every decision. They need to get in where they fit in, and pour themselves a nice hot cup of STFU and be quiet.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 9 months ago
    you're responding to John's comment... not mine.
  • Scott · 9 months ago
    Well expect to see the media take up their "fair and balanced" reporting bullshit again as the Republicans ratchet up their screams of betrayal over the next months. I mean what was all that crop with Rush? Do I care what he thinks about Obama? We're going to treated to cries of creeping socialism, repressive government, Big Brother taking over our lives, wasteful government spending, gay marriage destroying the country, abstinence as the only means of birth control, etc. etc. etc. and the "liberal media" will air all this crap once more. But lest we all forget, it was 30 years of Republican rule (Ok, 28 years) that got us into the unholy mess we're in now. And anyone who listens to the right wing nut-jobs ought to be shipped out of the country. Well, why not? It was legal during the Bush Administration wasn't it?
  • Ydnic · 9 months ago
    Something just became clearer to me... There was a report that Americans are not as "religious" as they used to be. The report said that greater numbers of Americans are not so enchanted with "organized religion."

    Perhaps this is because of the religious right of the republican party. They are overly rigid fanatics and appear to be nucking futty.

    I am a Christian; however, I became disenchanted with organized religion about 20 years ago. I practice spirituality - not religion. Per a Catholic Theologian "To be religious is to turn outward and listen to someone else tell you what to believe. To be spiritual is to turn inward and *know* that the answers which you seek will be be revealed to you from God."
  • Dan (Ron Paul 2008!) · 9 months ago
    "God is dead. We killed him." - F. Nietzsche

    Nobody has been able to prove ol' Freddy wrong. Innocent until proven guilty.
  • lilybart · 9 months ago
    Obama is only doing what he promised to do. I am not sure what they heard but I voted for him because he would lift the Global Gag rule and the ban on Stem Cell research.

    As usual they are whining because they no longer really believe that God does anything in the world, so THEY have to judge us all.
  • diogeron · 9 months ago
    According to Chuck Todd's book, "How Obama Won...", the single greatest predictor of who would vote for McCain was if a voter described himself as a "white evangelical Christian." In fact, Obama won 62% of the vote of EVERY voter who did NOT describe himself as a "white evangelical Christian." Obama and the rest of us who value a secular nation owe nothing to these people. Anybody who believes in the literal interpretation of the Bible is, by definition, incapable of persuasion by evidence. It is no accident that Obama won all ten of the ten states with the highest percentage of educated voters. This trend is unlikely to continue and, unlike Bush, Obama does not owe the evangelical community a thing. If anything, his expansion of the "faith based" initiative is pandering enough to these people. The fact that Obama has promised to let "science" rather than "ideology" (religious fundamentalism?) guide policy is a good step in the right direction.
  • missime · 9 months ago
    Science is from God. Just take a look around you. God created this beautiful world and gave it to us to man it with brains, knowledge, goodwill (well some us have it) and common sense. Limiting science is saying no to the magnificent potential that we have as God's creation. God is bid. He does big thing. He gave us our brains so we can expand and venture into doing good things for the good of humankind. We do need regulations because just like we have nuts in the religious world, we have some nuts in science too. Can you imagine the things we would be deprived of if we were scared of science? By the way God did not create religion, man created religion. As you know, we, man, do tend to screw thing up even when we start with good intentions.
  • osage · 9 months ago
    BETWEEN THE DEVIL AND THE DEEP BLUE SEA

    In order to gain the political power they’ve enjoyed over the last ten years, Republican moderates and Reagan conservatives made a pact with the devil (the religious right and Limbaugh racists, fear-mongers and hate-baiters) to achieve the numbers they needed to defeat Democrats. It was a conscious political decision to manipulate and exploit emotions to win rather than to be intellectually and morally honest and lose.

    Today, those Republican moderates and Reagan conservatives are caught between wanting to disassociate themselves with and or casting out the devils they empowered, and the karmic reality that they don’t have the numbers to hold on to or regain power without accepting and even advocating values that are dividing and destroying their party. The survival of the Republican Party has become so dependent on radicalism, that they have no significant political power WITH or WITHOUT the support of America’s lunatic fringe.

    The idiom about choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea is certainly appropriate as Republicans are facing the dilemma of choosing between two equally undesirable alternatives that both result in Republican impotence in mainstream American politics.
  • Blueflash · 9 months ago
    When you ride a tiger it's hard to get off.
  • David Ferdi/Bklyn New York · 9 months ago
    here!!here!!
  • Major Domo · 9 months ago
    I couldn't agree more!
  • Varish Turelock · 9 months ago
    These are the same Anti-americans who critisize our President and want America to FAIL!

    If they don't like this country they should get out. Love it or Leave it.
  • Todd · 9 months ago
    All Kabuki media BS -- Republicans like McCain and Schwarteneger and even their beloved Nancy Reagan -- support the stem cell research.
  • Karl · 9 months ago
    Excellent piece of writing. And of course, Obama probably felt betrayed by the "religious" right during the campaign. Their hateful rhetoric was something else!
  • mark · 9 months ago
    all this republican and conservative chest thumping is distracting. it's kind of like the crowd behind a goalpost trying to distract the opponent from scoring a field goal.
  • Karl · 9 months ago
    I lived in Canada for awhile, and you are correct. I voted for Obama and I wish they'd just leave him alone. He's on the right track.

    I also get upset at those who complain about Canada's health care system. I found it to be very good. Wish there wasn't so much whining by the Republicans here. I love the U.S., but some people are really in denial and, in my opinion, they need a reality check.
  • Major Domo · 9 months ago
    I'm waiting for the internment camps to reopen giving the die-hard repugs and religious right their own place in the sun - out of sight and out of mind.
  • Rosemary Kelley · 9 months ago
    You can't please the right wing ~ American has rejected their ideas and Americans want stem cell research. Right On Pres. Obama
  • Kristine · 9 months ago
    I live in Canada and my mother had quintuple heart bypass surgery recently. How much would that cost in the U.S.? About 350 thousand. How much did it cost her here? Two weeks of state of the art intensive care, 3 weeks of cardiac care and 6 weeks in a rehabilitation facility - all for the enormous cost of zero dollars! If she lived in the U.S. she would not have been able to afford any of it and would not have survived. I don't understand the American Right mindset. Call it "socialized medicine" all you want - it works and none of us feel like we live in a Socialist Country. Health care is not a privilege; it is a right that only a truly democratic society would provide to all of its citizens!
  • Blueflash · 9 months ago
    We hear a lot of right wing propaganda about Canada's health care system. Well, Canada is a democratic country just like ours. Doesn't it stand to reason that the citizens of Canada would be demanding change if it were a fraction as bad as Republicans claim? This is a simple point that everyone could understand and that could counteract conservative fear mongering, but Democrats never seem to make it. Then again it's taboo for any American politician to suggest that any other country could be superior to ours in any way.
  • David · 9 months ago
    They make me so sick these people on the religious right. They say nothing about racism and Limbaugh unchristian racist sexist rhetoric but the moment they cannot have their way they cry. America is a democracy not a theocracy and after years of their racist, sexist, bigoted ignorant control and not to mention the evaporation of human rights, the increase of poverty under their administration (religious right /republicans).Now they cry like Cary Nation and all those folk who want to legislate religion while they abort the very principles on which their religion is based on. Shame on them and may God forgive their pride filed self-righteous arrogance hidden under the veil of godliness. To quote Jesus render unto Cesar the things that are Cesar’s and to God the things that are God’s. They know this is not about God but their own power and control.
  • Mark · 9 months ago
    Hey -we are not a democracy- we are a Constitutional Republic. Mob Rule went out with France. At least get that part right.
  • ProbationSentences · 9 months ago
    These naysayers are not the "salt of the earth" Church going working class Americans sitting besides you in the pew these are the Politocrats those Politicians who simply use Chrisitian values as a wedge issue to gain political party- straight to hell on the wide path.
  • Dieter · 9 months ago
    Come on, how are you suprised by this? Any group that literally thinks the world is 6,000 years old, a man can rise from the dead of 3 days, and virginal birth, can pretty much think anything. Please stop looking for logic and intelligence from this crowd.
  • BECKY · 9 months ago
    Is this the same Catholic church who is excommunicating a 9 year old rape victim? I HAVE 2 WORDS FOR THOSE CHILD MOLESTING PIGS: OUCK FFF
  • Disgusted by greed · 9 months ago
    The religous right was fooled during the Bush Administration into thinking they were somehow represented in mainstream thinking. Truely they have always been a minority, deliberately used by W and his pals to put and keep themselves in power. It will take a little time for them to sober up and realize that what they took for reality was really just an 8 year drinking binge lead by a president who got off alcohol by drinking god. Get out the black coffee and brace yourself for a massive hangover.
  • missime · 9 months ago
    I couldn't agree with you more - I mean I couldn't disagree with you more - I mean I couldn't disagree with them more. Sorry! I just got a flashback from the McCain campaign - always makes me laugh.

    I agree with you a 100%. You betchya! You are so right. That is exactly what happened during the Bush Administration but some Christians are very gullible. They really believed they were important in politics during the Bush Administration. The devil conned all of us by making us believe that he is from God. In truth, some of us (I' m a non-gullible Christian) have a plan and it is to make the USA a Christian land - and most of the time that is by ignoring the love thy neighbor commandment. When GW was elected President (I'm a diehard religious Dem and I don't vote Repub because they do not represent me), some believe that it was the will of God to transform America in order to perfect God's plan. GW was chosen by God to free America from evil. Right now Gog is freeing America from the evildoers one by one. No longer will we put up with greed on WallStreet. No longer will we go to war for oil, or because of our own selfish reasons. GW destroyed the Middle class and made the rich richer. And the Bible says: The love of money is the root of all evil". Now you know who love money. There you have it.
  • Indigo · 9 months ago
    The Religious Reich has been claiming to feel betrayed since they blamed the Emperor Nero for the burning of Rome (which they started).
  • fgr · 9 months ago
    right on!
  • Christopher Flynn · 9 months ago
    "The religious right feels betrayed by President Obama" so he must be doing something very right!!! Let's keep god out of politics and inside a church building that you may attend at your own free will...not mine...
  • fgr · 9 months ago
    The Christian Right is neither.

    For so long they have hijacked religion for political leverage. They are a shameful bunch of lunatics who don't even know what they really believe and who they really are.

    "Pro-Life" + Pro-War = hy-Pro-crites

    One thing for sure... they have begotten not God's only son, but tremendous power and money. Completely contrary to Christian teachings. - Free, Democratic values and choices are a threat to their imperialistic, dictatorial Corporate mindset.

    May God have mercy on them.
  • j-IX-o-XI-b · 9 months ago
  • Bob · 9 months ago
    There is a type of medical research that involves using special cells, called embryonic stem cells, that might be used in the future to treat or cure many diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, diabetes, and spinal cord injury. It involves using human embryos discarded from fertility clinics that no longer need them. Some people say that using human embryos for research is wrong. Do you favor or oppose using discarded embryos to conduct stem cell research to try to find cures for the diseases I mentioned?"

    Favor 73
    Oppose 19
    Unsure 9
  • j-IX-o-XI-b · 9 months ago
    Gay Scientists Isolate Christian Gene

    Oh if it were so easy...
  • Steve · 9 months ago
    Evangelicals didn't vote for Obama anyway. He did as well as Kerry did with them. It was one of the few demographics where Obama didn't improve over Kerry. They're not interested in compromise. They want him to bow to them.
  • JNagarya · 9 months ago
    The "religious right" is not the United States, therefore cannot be betrayed by the gov't that the vast majority elects -- regardless the BS "feelings" of the "religious right MINORITY.

    These religionuts are not "religious"; they are thugs who'll tell any lie in pursuit of power. They simply hide behind "religion" in order to hide what they are. They support war -- against the word of their "Lord"; they are gung-ho FOR the war crime of torture.

    By and large, the "religious right" consists of white supremacists -- the KKK also hides behind "religion," while ADMITTING that they are a terrorist organization -- Neo-Nazis and others who ONLY hate, based upon lies, and lie in effort to advance their efforts to overthrow our system of laws. They've all along been domestic enemies.

    G. W. Bushit was one of them. He lied the country into illegal war. He authorized the use of torture. Having been subjected to torture, who would CHRIST torture?
  • KISSman · 9 months ago
    I could see if they had backed him, but he was never their guy to begin with.

    I think it's just a shock to their system that they no longer have a direct line to the White House and they no longer have an ounce of influence on the political agenda in Washington. They don't know how to deal with a President who doesn't see their opinion as important as they think it is.
  • WBum · 9 months ago
    Not one single poll I've read in the last 2 and a 1/2 years had stem cell researc opponents ahead of proponents.
  • Cynic13 · 9 months ago
    Religious anything has NO PLACE in our politics and laws. The sooner these morons understand that concept, the sooner we can have our country back to normal!
  • Paz3 · 9 months ago
    "The danger here is that the religious right, including Catholic activists, are playing Obama. They know he wants to be loved by the right, and they know that he went particularly out of his way to woo religious conservatives. "

    I'm sorry, but IMO that's a mis-placed comment. Obama doesn't want to be "...loved by the right..." He's not vain in that way, someone's projecting their own vanity. Obama wants to govern successfully, and that requires reaching out to all. The Prez is far more centered than to believe he can actually move very many conservatives, but the act of trying helps to cement his mandate.
  • sean olson · 9 months ago
    Aww too bad, who cares, the religious right has ruined the republican party. Religion should be kept separate from government period.
  • steve · 9 months ago
    Mitch McConell ought to vomit already. I mean, he always looks like he's on the verge. His friends and colleagues ought to just tell him, "Let 'er rip."
    The Religious Right is completely devoid of ideas, energy, and integrity. That won't stop the true believers from trying their best to turn the USA into a fascist theocracy, but at least the rest of us can breathe more easily now that their fear, stupidity, and lack of intelligence has rendered them impotent.
  • estherlyt · 9 months ago
    The religious right keeps butting into state affairs. What are they trying to do, end their tax exempt status and register as...what?
    At least then they would be acting in an honest capacity, with the transparency that govt involvement entails...and that little detail...PAYING TAXES!
    Speaking of broken promises...what about your broken promise to your namesake, Jesus? Love thy neighbor as thyself.
    Love Obama as you love yourself. Oooops.
    This childish behavior will soon be embarrassing even the children, it is so shallow and obvious.
    But it IS most encouraging to hear that Obama isn't catering to the ir/religious right, a righteous plus for Obama.
  • MNUSA · 9 months ago
    I'm curious about what the religious right think life is. 2 cells? 6 cells? 2000 cells? Do they believe birth control prevents life therefore is immoral? What's more immoral: letting a children suffer and die of a disease that genetics research might someday cure or using unwanted fertilized eggs to get that cure? Do they even know what they're talking about? Or is it just hysterics about something they fear?
  • alberta treadway · 9 months ago
    If they are going to call it murder for useing them for medical purpose's, what do they call it when they are flushed down the toilet and destroyed! This is a crazy arguement! They have no objection when they are flushed down the stool, but they do object when their used to find medical cures?They make a poor arguement in front of God, don't they! I can murder them this way, but we can't murder them that way! What I can't figure out is if they find this subject so repundent, and a subject they want to argue about-------------Than why are they saying Obama is doing this to destract! Is this an importan subject to republicans, or just a destraction! They counterdict themself at every turn!
  • Jason · 9 months ago
    There is no arugment I've ever heard the conservative right say that explains not using stem cells for research. Once again the religious issue is being used as an arguement...separation of church and state...that only means if they agree with the separation. Get over it so we can move forward and hopefully come up with a treatment for things like ms, aids and others. Get over it and we'll deal with our explanation to God about why we felt it necessary to use an embryo that was going to be disposed of anyway to help come up with a cure!!! HELLLLLLOOOO
  • missime · 9 months ago
    Because he's not a hypocrite and he has real beliefs. What do the Repubs stand for again? Refresh my memory.
  • wondering · 9 months ago
    "they know that he went particularly out of his way to woo religious conservatives" - maybe he did that by suggesting that he would at least be more moderate in opposing their views than other dems?

    If he went out of his way to "woo" any other group, and then actively and decisively undermined their agenda after taking office, wouldn't that group feel betrayed too?

    Not questioning his policy choices, just the fairness of criticizing people who believed he would be post-partisan
  • dugmaze · 9 months ago
    "on one of the nation’s most divisive issues "
    Who said that? You?
  • funnybonehead · 9 months ago
    It's a choice
    Not a child.
  • kitvancleave · 9 months ago
    There's just no news coming out of the GOP, apart from "no," "I want him to fail," and lies.
  • O'FailureLoller · 9 months ago
    Anyone remember "the Joshua Project" (or Project Joshua?)? You contradict yourself when you say "he wasn't your candidate" but then later say that Obama courted religious voters. Obviously, he wanted to be their candidate and pandered to then with vague platitudes. But now that "moderates" have seen the terrorist sympathizer/communist O'failure really is (releasing USS Cole Bombers, signing a stimulus that was ammended to allow illegal immigrants jobs funded by the plan, signing a spending bill that ends the Cuba embargo, and so on), they won't be fooled again.

    Obama doesn't need Rush hoping for him to fail. He is already a failure on his own.

    O'Failure from '08. Gone in '12.
  • Tamburello1994 · 9 months ago
    Thats a rather quick assessment after what 50 days? Good luck with that attitude.
  • Kay · 9 months ago
    That's right! You got PuNkEd, Biaaaatches! lol
  • Maggie Knowles · 9 months ago
    I think stem cell research will provide so many health benefits, that eventually, people will stop complaining about it. As most people will come to know someone in their family who is not paralyzed anymore, who is cured from Alzheimer's or diabetes, or has grown a new kidney or liver.

    Juan Enriquez’ TED presentation talks about our upcoming economic reboot and identifies future economic growth, as we cut, we also have to grow. 2% investment into technology returns 17+% - He talks about our ability to engineer microbes, tissue and robots and how these areas of technology will change humans - next step, Homo Evolutis - the future of our grandchildren. I have a link to his TED presentation on my blog: http://sunnyspot.stardigs.com/?p=1200
  • John S · 9 months ago
    STFU on stem cells already. Watch how the "personhood" argument is conveniently brushed aside when stem cell research comes up with a cure for cancer. What other proof do you need than the utter failure of eight years of anti-science, anti-progress has wrought us? Be grateful we a have a president we need instead of one who will set us back 100 years.