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AMERICAblog: Thursday Morning Open Thread

  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Good morning.

    A new video by MoveOn.org Political Action asks:

    Q: How do you get to 100 years in Iraq?
    A: Six months at a time.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/iraq-six-mo...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    US Says Top al-Qaida Terrorist Is Dead

    WASHINGTON (April 9) - An Egyptian al-Qaida boss believed to be the planner behind the foiled 2006 terrorist plot to blow up airliners over the Atlantic is dead of natural causes, U.S. counterterrorism officials said Wednesday.

    One official said the strategist, Abu Obeida al-Masri, was also responsible for attacks on U.S. forces in Afghanistan and is linked to the July 7, 2005 attacks on the London transit system, one official said Wednesday.

    Al-Masri is believed to have died of hepatitis in late 2007 in Pakistan's lawless tribal area bordering Afghanistan, a second counterterrorism official said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.


    Guess Bush's "plan" is to hope Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri get hepatitus too.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    In an interview with the Charleston Gazette, Rockefeller said that McCain did not care about the concerns of average people, and Rockefeller used as an example the fact that as a Navy fighter pilot, McCain had dropped missiles without knowing who or what they hit.

    ...Obama has already made it clear that he is never, ever going to criticize John McCain’s war record. In fact, he continually commends McCain for his many long years of military service in a way that suggests that said service was accomplished while clad in armor and carrying a spear.

    For another, thanks to his wife, Cindy, heir to a beer distributing fortune, McCain is worth an estimated $100 million. When a man whose family has more than a half-dozen houses opposes help for people facing mortgage foreclosure, you do not need to go back to the Vietnam war to make the argument that he’s out of touch with average Americans’ problems.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/opinion/10col...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Permalinkgrandma

    Good morning.

    A new video by MoveOn.org Political Action asks:

    Q: How do you get to 100 years in Iraq?
    A: Six months at a time.

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    This is good.

    "War on the installment plan."
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    the installment plan...

    Stall til Bush is out of office....
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    The moral of an old story applies in the Democratic race.

    A scorpion wants to cross a river. But scorpions can't swim. The scorpion sees a frog. He asks the frog to carry him on his back across the river. The frog demurs. "Do you think I'm crazy? If you get on my back, you'll sting me -- and your sting is fatal."

    Not to worry, replies the scorpion. "If I sting you, you'll die, true, but that means that I'll die, too, because I can't swim. It's in my self-interest not to sting you. If I did, your murder would be my suicide as well."

    The logic was impeccable. So the frog agreed to carry the scorpion on his back. They set off across the river. Halfway to the other side, the scorpion stung the frog. As the two of them sunk beneath the waves, the dying frog said, "How could you do this? It means your own death, too."

    "I know," said the drowning scorpion, "but it's in my nature."

    Well, the roles of frog and scorpion are being played, respectively, by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Just metaphorically, that is. Clinton is very able, and she has as much right to cross the river as anyone else -- but stinging isn't going to get her there.

    Anyone who says that she's sure her opponent is not a Muslim, then adds "as far as I know," is a habitual stinger.

    http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/1...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    But, Grandma, you missed the punch line:

    All that being true, there is a big brick on the other side of the scale: The frog may not be just Barack Obama. It may be the entire Democratic party. Sen. Clinton knows that prolonging the river passage may so damage the reputations and embitter the supporters of both candidates that neither, if nominated, can win. She's willing to risk that fate, however increasingly probable, because she claims she can somehow manage to change the vote tally. Or is it just her nature?
  • Tomm · 1 year ago
    14 Structural Engineers Now Publicly Challenge Government's Explanation for Destruction of the World Trade Center


    A prominent engineer with 55 years experience, in charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects including high rise offices, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council (Marx Ayres) believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition (see also this)

    Two professors of structural engineering at a prestigious Swiss university (Dr. Joerg Schneider and Dr. Hugo Bachmann) said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here)
    Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California, says:

    "Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition"

    Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California, writes:

    "Why would all 110 stories drop straight down to the ground in about 10 seconds, pulverizing the contents into dust and ash - twice. Why would all 47 stories of WTC 7 fall straight down to the ground in about seven seconds the same day? It was not struck by any aircraft or engulfed in any fire. An independent investigation is justified for all three collapses including the surviving steel samples and the composition of the dust."
    http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2008/04/14...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Bush Bites..

    lol...you are right..I did....thanks !!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Tensions are rising in the money markets in spite of the injection of huge amounts of liquidity into the banking system by central banks. Traders say market conditions suggest the Bear rescue has not completely alleviated worries about counterparty risks. Until confidence is restored, the availability of credit to investors and companies will be restricted, potentially hurting the broader economy.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/58571d70-0660-11dd-80...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Inflation, Spanning Globe, Is Set to Reach Decade High
    By Andrew Batson
    Wall Street Journal

    After several years of relative stability, a wave of rising prices is washing over the world economy.

    It comes at a most inconvenient time. The Federal Reserve is sharply cutting U.S interest rates -- the opposite of the usual response to rising inflation -- to prevent the housing bust and credit crisis from causing a deep, prolonged recession. That's making the global response to inflation more complicated.
  • Tomm · 1 year ago
    Obama ads mislead


    MALVERN, Pa.— Hillary Clinton's camp complained Wednesday that Barack Obama was trying to buy the Pennsylvania Democratic primary with an extensive television advertising campaign, saying his rising popularity with the state's voters was partly the result of misleading ads.

    Obama aides credited the Illinois Democrat's recent bus tour through the state for his climb in the polls, while also trying to lower expectations raised by the new data. New numbers suggest Obama is narrowing Clinton's lead in the crucial April 22 primary to within a few percentage points.

    Given Clinton's advantage in Pennsylvania, early speculation was that Obama would not expend a lot of effort in the state, so that he could concentrate on May 6 primaries in North Carolina and Indiana—and so that a defeat wouldn't look so bad.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi...
  • Tomm · 1 year ago
    Secret US plan for military future in Iraq
    Document outlines powers but sets no time limit on troop presence

    A confidential draft agreement covering the future of US forces in Iraq, passed to the Guardian, shows that provision is being made for an open-ended military presence in the country.

    The draft strategic framework agreement between the US and Iraqi governments, dated March 7 and marked "secret" and "sensitive", is intended to replace the existing UN mandate and authorises the US to "conduct military operations in Iraq and to detain individuals when necessary for imperative reasons of security" without time limit.

    The authorisation is described as "temporary" and the agreement says the US "does not desire permanent bases or a permanent military presence in Iraq". But the absence of a time limit or restrictions on the US and other coalition forces - including the British - in the country means it is likely to be strongly opposed in Iraq and the US.

    Iraqi critics point out that the agreement contains no limits on numbers of US forces, the weapons they are able to deploy, their legal status or powers over Iraqi citizens, going far beyond long-term US security agreements with other countries. The agreement is intended to govern the status of the US military and other members of the multinational force.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/08/ira...
  • Ahole · 1 year ago
    Boy this place is a shadow of its former self.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    so's the whole country, ahole.
    unless you're blackwater or exxon...
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    Grandma,
    I agree with that story. but I think the frogs are the Democrats that stood up for the Clinton's through all of their troubles, we carried them across the river when they would have drowned in the 90's and Hillary and Bill had no problem in stinging the Dems with their poison once we saved them. It is in their nature.
  • DCinDC · 1 year ago
    McCain, who has wrapped up his party's nomination to run for the White House in the November election, has maintained support for Iraq war and has said frequently that he would rather lose an election than get out of Iraq..

    Republican U.S. presidential candidate John McCain said on Wednesday he would not rule out launching preemptive wars against anybody.


    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_doesnt_rul...
  • davidi92260 · 1 year ago
    Bush and the republicans will throw the last of the treasure into the rat hole in order to keep his administration floating barely above the water line. All hell will break loose soon. We have only seen the tip of this iceberg. Inflation will go out of control. It has to. Too much money has been squandered.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "quit complaining about your lost limbs and lives I have to get the neocon speaking tour money when I retire"-David Betray Us
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Larisa Alexandronva may be the only investigative reporter left in America. She did a marvelous story on ex Governor Siegelman and now has a story about the a Mississippi Supreme Court Judge who encountered encountered the same type of political evil from the Justice Department. A pattern is forming of misdeeds by the Justice Department. It is frightening to think this could happen here, could happen to any of us.

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Diaz_placeholder_...
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    The Center for Public Integrity -- Hillary Clinton: The Wal-Mart Videos. "“I’m so proud of this company, and everything it represents,” Clinton says in the video clip. “Anytime I travel and I tell people I’m from Arkansas . . . Wal-Mart’s on top of the list, and everybody wants me to tell them about Wal-Mart and Sam Walton and Helen Walton and all of the Wal-Mart associates." From the Archives.

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/clintonwalmart/
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    No wonder the fat cats inside the beltway do not think we are in a recession. Want a $13,000 steak and liquor dinner, how about some sexy underwear for your favorite female for after dinner. Just hand over your plastic card and charge it to the government. Holy cow, winning the lottery is a long shot but working for Uncle Sam is better.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Since we can't get an answer, the answer is: We're not safer.

    We're not.


    We're letting Bush and the Neocons define things. Yes, there are terrorists. But the idea that they are a deadly threat to destroy this naiton, Send a million man army against each coast and another million marching up the Mississippi is Bush's bullshit. In fact, I don't think they were the ones to pull off 9/11 either, rather that was a Black Flag operation by the Bush administration. Notice too how Bush is always jumping up and down, screaming "Al Qaeta! Al Qaeta!" Actually, they tell us that most of the attacks in Iraq are due to insurgents and only 2 to 10% of the attacks can be credited to Al Qaeta with the 2% figure to be the most reliable. Even if Al Qaeta was responsible for 9/11, it was the result of a major, massive failure on the Bush administration, not that Al Qaeta was so powerful and able to attack us at will. If Bush had been doing his job instead of spending a month vacation in Crawford, if Condoleezza Rice had been a real National Security administrator, if they had been more concerned with doing their jobs, 9/11 would never have happened.

    The war against Iraq was not necessary. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. We destroyed that nation, killed 1.3 million of their people, and scattered another 4 million to become refugees, leveled many of their cities, roads, infrastructure. They have no water, no electricity, food shortages, their babies die needlessly and brutally. If we are not safer from terrorists, we made those terrorists by terrorizing their nation, butchering their wives, husbands, mothers, fathers, children, uncles, aunts, grandparents and friends. And the reason we are no safer is because the Bush administration is still too incompetent and stupid, too greedy and selfish to spend the money and effort to make us safer with real national security, not the bullshit of Homeland Security, which is really a huge, expensive boondoggle to enrich Bush's corporate crooks with unbid contracts.

    The reason we haven't been attacked since 9/11 is really that Bush has exaggerated the threat of terrorism, much like the little boy crying wolf.