DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Thusday Morning Open Thread

  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    I'm wondering if we will now begin to hear about the American "worker" now rather than the American "consumer". I always found it disturbing that we were all thought of as consumers rather than workers—but perhaps that whole earning money for nothing is a projection on the part of wealthy Republicans.
  • Bush Bites · 1 year ago
    Very good point.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    The DU discussion board has a story about Bush firing "disloyal" federal employees—you know, the kind of employees that refused to commit crimes and blew the whistle on those who did. Maybe the Obama administration can find a place for them. (Come to our side... we have cookies).
  • maggiePA08 · 1 year ago
    But more importantly, how was Peteys first night in his new home?
  • GMinDE · 1 year ago
    Beat me to the same question. Joe?
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    Is anyone but me finding the "greedy American worker" meme being pushed by Rethugs so disgusting as to warrant complete condemnation?

    It's pretty obvious that "cheap labor" is what rich corporate/Rethug types (and even some Dems, damn them) wish for consistently. I truly don't see "living wages" in the immediate future for most people, especially the working class. We let this pass at our peril, and at that of our children and grandchildren.

    Oh, and Dingell? Kick him to the curb and find out how long his wife keeps her job.
  • MyVoice · 1 year ago
    They look at the auto workers wages and forget the wages of all of the AIG employees. I would love to see a side by side comparison of wages between the entire AIG group and the Auto workers.
  • bejammin075 · 1 year ago
    When did the DOW first get to 8000?

    Mid July, 1997. That's nineteen ninety seven! If you put your money on the DOW 11 years and 4 months ago, you'd have made exactly zero return on your investment.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    can't comment right now as I have to dash
    to hop on my private jet to fly to WDC and
    stick my hand out!

    if you're hungry there's cake in the fridge.

    (OK.. sarcasm being switched off now)
  • dad · 1 year ago
    Good morning, All.
  • Bush Bites · 1 year ago
    I was hoping the government would take non-voting stock in the auto companies.

    As Krugman says, you can't reorganize under Chapter 11 when the credit markets are frozen.

    Too bad the auto execs are such assholes. They completely hurt their cause yesterday. Looking exactly like an unsuccessful version of the assholes who run the Oil Companies.

    (But, by the way, I'm sick of hearing Southern Pols talking against this or that "bail out." We send way more money down south than they send up North, so we're in effect bailing them out every fucking day.)
  • MyVoice · 1 year ago
    They did not ask AIG to go into chapter 11 before bailing them out.
    The southern Pols are in right to work states that have foreign car companies that assemble cars in non-union shops. The are wanting to use this bailout to bust the UAW apart. They do not tell everyone how much money from those cars goes directly to Japan or Europe.
  • CPL · 1 year ago
    How could the House get it right in dealing with traitors, but the Senate caves in to a weasel like Lieberman?

    And Dingell was no angel, but at least House Leadership is dealing with him to where he can continue to caucus with them and not threaten them with defection to the Republicans.

    I don't care - the failure to deal with Lieberman makes Senate Leadership look weak, and will come back to bite them in the ass because Joe Lieberman is vindictive like that.
  • MyVoice · 1 year ago
    Joe is in a hard place now- he owes Obama for keeping his seat. They can always remove Joe anytime from his chairmanship if he tries to bite them. I agree that he should have been punished but I will trust Obama on this one.
  • CPL · 1 year ago
    I hope you're right; that at the first sign of treachery, we just wake up the next day and read that Joe has been removed from his Committee Chair position.

    No drama - he's just removed and defanged.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    Please tell me Obama will name a new Secretary of Defense. I CAN'T STAND ANY MORE.

    While there is an ongoing discussion about what shape the military-industrial complex will take under an Obama presidency, what is often left out of this analysis is the intrusion of the military into higher education. One example of the increasingly intensified and expansive symbiosis between the military-industrial complex and academia was on full display when Robert Gates, the secretary of defense, announced the creation of what he calls a new "Minerva Consortium," ironically named after the goddess of wisdom, whose purpose is to fund various universities to "carry out social-sciences research relevant to national security."(1) Gates's desire to turn universities into militarized knowledge factories producing knowledge, research and personnel in the interest of the Homeland (In)Security State should be of special concern for intellectuals, artists, academics and others who believe that the university should oppose such interests and alignments. At the very least, the emerg ence of the Minerva Consortium raises a larger set of concerns about the ongoing militarization of higher education in the United States.
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    too bad we can't ask JFK about this.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Good morning. How many unemployed will it take to permanently discredit the Republican party?
  • anarchy · 1 year ago
    I'd say current figures are already doing so.
  • Nosybear · 1 year ago
    Opposite's true out West: It's way too late to be this warm (although the streak did break today....)
  • duchessofbilgewater · 1 year ago
    Cindy McCain has a luva??
  • Older_Wiser · 1 year ago
    Unemployment claims out...542,000; officially, there are 4 million out of work. Of course, that doesn't include people like our friend, Webster, who says he's been out of work for 3 yrs or others like him.

    Dow expected to open lower, in spite of Saudi Prince's infusion of more cash into Citi Group...which is expected to lose this am (sorry, Prince).

    It just gets worse and worse...
  • MyVoice · 1 year ago
    It is funny that Romney brings up his fathers work running AMC when discussing letting the big 3 go into chapter 11. Is he upset that AMC is no longer a brand?
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    good morning...

    how's Petey?
    go Waxman!!!
  • Demo_Dave · 1 year ago
    Below is a statement from Sally kern. What she forgets to mention is that george Washington owned 316 human beings and forced them to work for him. So I can't imagine why she would look to him for inspiration on modern day Civil Rights.

    http://repsallykern. com/

    I'm sure you know that George Washington was the general of the American Revolution, President of the Constitutional Convention which gave us our Constitution, as well as our first U.S. President. Obviously he was someone who knows what the Constitution teaches. Did you know that on March 14, 1778 he kicked a soldier out of the Revolutionary army for engaging in sodomy? He, along with most of our Founding Fathers, enacted state laws that made sodomy a crime punishable by death. All people are created equal but homosexuality is a behavior. For centuries that was understood but today, because homosexuals want acceptance for their unnatural behavior, they are demanding it is their right to engage in that behavior because they are born that way. Thus they call it a civil right like with blacks. So what comes next? Pedophiles, rapists, murderers? People who engage in these behaviors say they were born that way and can't help themselves. We are all responsible for our behavior and saying something is who we are rather than what we do is only an excuse in order to engage in that behavior and, hopefully, escape the guilt.



    On your second point, if you check your history, you will see that our Founding Fathers created our government as a Republic and not a democracy. I challenge you to find out what they meant by a republic. I'll not tell you because you would not believe me. Go to some original writings of our Founding Fathers to see what they actually said. They did not want a theocracy, nor do I. I want the Republic they created. On October 11, 1798 in his address to the military, John Adams said "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." The First Amendment protects our religious freedom regardless of what religion one chooses or if no religion is chosen. But when you read what the Founding Fathers had to say, it is indisputable, that they believed religion and morality in all areas of life were absolutely necessary for our form of government. George Washington said "Of all the habits and dispositions that lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports." Washington's Farewell Address, September 19, 1796.



    Please feel free to visit me any time you can at the Capitol.



    God bless,

    Sally Kern
  • Boomer13 · 1 year ago
    I for one will not believe in any change that does not include permanent caps on executive compensation. Corporate execs make obscenely opulent salaries, not to mention bonuses, perks and stock options that enrich them beyond all imagination and anyone's ability to spend it all. Now they are flying their corporate jets to Washington to ask for an infusion of your and my middle-class tax dollars to bail them out, along with an implicitly sought indulgence for having driven their companies into the ditch to begin with. We cannot afford to return them to their compensation-as-usual way of doing business.

    The U.S. Government should not give away any more money without clear understandings of the strings attached and how the money is—or is NOT—to be used. This goes beyond marketplace economics. It has become (again) a moral issue. It always was.
  • MaudGonne · 1 year ago
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/34...
    South Korean company takes over part of Madagascar to grow biofuels
    The African island state of Madagascar has agreed to allow a South Korean company to take over huge tracts of its territory for farmland in a deal showing the worldwide scramble for resources across the continent.

    Daewoo Logistics is taking a 99-year lease on 3.2 million acres of land, half the size of Belgium, to grow maize and biofuels, building its own roads and other infrastructure to service the new farms that will be created on currently undeveloped open space. The amount is almost half the currently farmed land in the country. The deal is a sign of the concern of many countries, particularly the intensely populated nations of the far east, about ensuring the safety and reliability of food and other supplies in an increasingly competitive world.
  • MaudGonne · 1 year ago
    The Soviet government looked after the house as they did all the heritage sites, diligently, creating the impression that Chekhov or Tolstoy had just pushed their chairs away from their desks and gone to post a letter and would soon be back. But maintenance is expensive and now the Yalta house is in the Ukraine, the Ukrainian government says that, since Chekhov was a Russian, it's up to the Russians to fix things – unaware perhaps of the fact that Chekhov had Ukrainian blood through his grandmother, and originally came from Taganrog, 200 miles from Yalta across the Sea of Azov.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment...
  • spookiness · 1 year ago
    Its winter. It's supposed to be cold, and 40's isn't that cold. Wuss.