DISQUS

smiling_dog · 1 year ago

Somebody has to get the goods on Iseman. And, let's face it, there will be another layer of lies peeled when it is shown that Edwards is the father of that kid.

shrrrr · 1 year ago

Yup. And if that turns out to be true, he's lied (again) to his wife and the world. What a train wreck.

jr · 1 year ago

"you want to have sex with John McCain so you talk about his military service when anybody questions him on anything"-Napoleon Dynamite to Bob Schieffer

HIreader · 1 year ago

That's a good response by Klein, actually. The real lies are those that involve destroying the constitution (Bush's, in other words) and running a dishonest campaign (McCain's).

vwcat · 1 year ago

I heard this last night about how Edwards affair might hurt obama and thought WTF? One has nothing to do with the other but, leave it to the media to find a way to make it Obama's problem.

bob915 · 1 year ago

Wolf Blitzer is an abject disgrace

KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago

Also include David Gregory: Is this another problem Obama must struggle to overcome?

blackwolf · 1 year ago

Joe Klein is not to be taken seriously. I can tell he's not aware of what it takes to win an election. He's on the right track, but he's hiding under the blanket. He needs to go full-on the attack: not just whine about it on a a blog he's paid to write.

Attack the problem at its sourse: name names, give us email addresss: lead the charge.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

This isn't the first time Joe Klein has missed the bigger picture. You can't tell me the media is so obtuse they can't see the obvious parallels to McCain's affair with Cindy Hensley. I'm sure Carol McCain could tell us what it feels like to be the sick wife who gets dumped for the pretty, rich rodeo queen.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-g...

SDBear · 1 year ago

Several outlets got the McCain connection - including some conservative ones. See Editor & Publisher: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/ar...

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

One other angle the media needs to cover is the whole PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR thing.

Sure, Edwards just got caught doing what McCain did to his first wife, Carol. He cheated on his sick wife. Granted, Edwards returned to the fold and is supposedly making amends, while John McCain slammed the door in his first wife's face and started another family with the rich, rodeo queen.

One of the questions that needs answering is the one about a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR. Did John McCain DO IT AGAIN with Vicki Iseman? One could argue Cindy McCain is sick because drug addiction is a lifelong disease. Did John McCain consider Cindy McCain to be "damaged goods" and was he looking for another trophy wife and thought Vicki Iseman, the lobbyist, would be a "perfect partner." I see a pattern of behavior emerging that shows John McCain is:

A. Not to be trusted
B. Doesn't have any character
C. Is always grasping for the next brass ring when it comes to pretty trophy wives

ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago

Face it. A Republican could fuck 50 prostitutes in the middle of Lafayette Square and the mainstream conservative-owned media would never report on it.

Captain_America · 1 year ago

Maybe everyone should go over to TIME'S Swampland blog messageboard and help Joe Klein out with his "senior moment" and remind him that there is no dispute over McCain committing adultery on his first wife and running off and marrying his mistress and having kids.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

One other disturbing aspect that should be examined is why did John Edwards choose to return to his sick wife and original family, but John McCain seemed to SLAM THE DOOR on his sick wife and original family and just glibly turn the page on "a new chapter" of "his" life. The reason why I put "his" life in quotes is when someone cheats on a spouse, they are also cheating on the family he created with that first spouse. As the child of divorced parents, I can tell you NOTHING is ever the same when your parent divorces and remarries. The parents are only human, and they develop stronger loyalties and ties to their "new family." You don't see a whole lot of John McCain's children from his union with Carol. Then again, while my father was alive, we were always well versed in the kind of praise we were to heap on him and my stepmother as wonderful parents. Usually divorced families are the picture of dysfunction. I would expect nothing less of McCain's family. The press has just chosen to ignore it, or to try to portray them the way John and Cindy WANT them to portray them. The kids aren't stupid, as well. They know they have a LOT TO LOSE if they tell the truth. Same goes for Carol, the first wife. I'm sure she has been presented with the idea, "Hmmmm... what would be better for our kids? Go along and lie and say, 'John should be President,' or tell the truth about him and let him fail." Think about it.

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

Has John Sydney McCain explained how his penchant for serial adultery would enhance or hinder a McCain administration? Does he feel it would be a matter of national security if he were having a sexual tryst which might lead to black mail?
With his being a serial adulterer, has McCain had any other extramarital affairs since being married to his second wife?
Why won't McCain answer? Is it because he can't?

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Those are EXCELLENT national debate questions!

maudegonne · 1 year ago

For all of his sleazy success with novels, and selling himself to a major magazine, Joe Klein's insight into human nature is sadly lacking. His raw material will doubtless continue to come from eavesdropping and voyeurism, and of course the dabbling he got caught up in...

Just why did this story, and its insight into a deeply flawed prince, take so long to penetrate the reading habits of the high-minded???? Partly because they depend on the likes of Joe Klein to tell them about the interests of voters....

shrrrr · 1 year ago

I'm guessing Vickey Iseman is in a lockdown situation somewhere south of the boarder.

anotherdumguy · 1 year ago

Klein has it exactly right. I don't give a fluing fuck who McCain slept with years ago (or now for that matter, any more than I care what Edwards did on his own time). I do care about how much debt my children are expected to shoulder, how much pollution we are willing to live with as we use more coal, how much my civil rights are being eliminated, and spending priorities (guns vs. butter).

As far as I am concerned the republicans are the borrow and bomb party, which is why I will never vote for them again.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Yes, but you have to understand. If the majority of Americans decided on who to vote for based on whether or not that person would benefit their self interests, instead of who they would like to go drinkin' with then we would never have had "Dubya" destroy our nation the last eight years.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Question: "When did you ever vote for them, and why?"

dad · 1 year ago

rielle = cindy

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

It's really disappointing and quite disturbing that J. Sydney McCain, while enjoying a "maverick" status, won't "man up" and simply state whether or not he has had illicit sexual affairs with other women during the time he has been married to his second wife.

How difficult can a simple yes or no answer be? Answer the question McCain!

dad · 1 year ago

cindy = rielle

dad · 1 year ago

Carol = Elizabeth

dad · 1 year ago

john = john

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

What say you to it?
Will you again unknit
This curlish knot of all-abhorred war?
And move in that obedient orb again
Where you did give a fair and natural light,
And be no more an exhaled meteor,
A prodigy of fear and a portent
Of broached mischief to the unborn times?

--King Henry IV, Part I, Act V, Scene I

The Lunar "X"???
Omen or trick of light?
http://spaceweather.com/submissions/large_image...

katjam · 1 year ago

Do family-values Americans really want a HOMEWRECKER as First Lady? Cindy moved right in on McCain when he was playing fast and loose with women after returning from Viet Nam. His wife was permanently injured but that was apparently not a reason to not pursue John for herself. And what about her going after a much older man? Tsk. Tsk.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Don't forget. It takes a man of questionable character to go after the homewrecker in the first place. It sounds like you are putting the majority of the blame on Cindy. John McCain didn't have to go skirt chasing.

BorninUSA · 1 year ago

Not to remove all blame from Cindy, but I think Mcshame was looking around when he ran across Cindy and all he could see was $$$$$. She could have been as homely as a fence post and he would have pursued her for her money. Mcshame was only interested in what Cindy could do for him. He needed her $$$$$ to pursue his political career. And of course Cindy was thrilled that our "hero" mcshame was interested in her that she fell for his line. Sure she knew all about Carol but when two people are "in love they don't care about anything else." Cindy and mcshame deserve each other. He got her money and she got her "hero."

katjam · 1 year ago

Absolutely true. McCain had the roving eye but my riff on Cindy was merely to point out that were the Democratic candidate to have dumped his old wife for a wealthy and very young socialite the Limbaughs of this world would be outraged. They would be ranting about how Americans would not stand for such a woman become our First LADY.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

I like this article from Slate about McCain's infidelity:

"There were legal complications, too. The Los Angeles Times reported in June that McCain obtained a marriage license while still legally married to his first wife. McCain suggested in his autobiography that he divorced Carol months before marrying Cindy. In fact, that period was about five weeks. He also said that for the first nine months of his relationship with Cindy, he still “cohabited” with Carol. Social conservatives were never McCain’s base, but yes, it could get worse. "

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/?y=1

What was that argument from Conservatives? If gay marriage is allowed then people will marry more than one person at a time, and marry pets, yadda yadda yadda? Seems like John McCain was married to more than ONE woman at a time! Wow, polygamy! John McCain believes in polygamy!

scottinsf · 1 year ago

Good points. An issue involved in the marriage license story is that to get a marriage license (something I'm now familiar with) you have to state on the application that you are not currently married. At least that is the way it is in California. I can't imagine Arizona ever issuing a marriage license without having asked that one simple question.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

The point is THEY DID ASK IT and McCain LIED or was incorrect. Either way, the marriage license issued was INVALID because he was committing polygamy.

Ben Dover · 1 year ago

It is amazing that the party of the neo-cons is about to nominate a man who cannot come clean about his serial adultery and extramarital sexual affairs before the convention. Instead of espousing policies that are doomed to failure, McCain will have to constantly dodge questions about his tawdry sexual trysts and the number of time he has strayed while married to his first and then second wife.
Why won't McCain answer the simple yes or no question? Or does he have too much to lose by answering honestly, like the honorable man he claims to be?

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Meanwhile, on the g-rated Obama front, I'm thinking if "pink" was Jackie's hot fashion color will "orange" be Michelle O's???

http://www.savvy-women-magazine.com/images/Jack...

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//...

mirth · 1 year ago

No no no. Michelle's color is purple.

mirth · 1 year ago

Sorry, that site is temporarily down.

Try this one:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/03/us/...

falloch · 1 year ago

There's no use attacking McPteradactyl's infidelity re: first wife - The MSM will attribute his 'misbehaviour' to his trauma after his Viet prison experience. If the MSM resurrects her, Vicky Iseman will be depicted as a minx who took advantage of a war veteran, who should be forgiven and raised to the position of president because he's overcome his disabilities that were a result of his military experiences. Morality is on the back seat when you've got a Repug vet on the ticket. As for Edwards, so sad, but no Top Gun incidences on which he can blame his infidelity. So he just echoes Bill Clinton's scenario, with the MSM sitting and watching as though they're the birds in The Birds, just waiting to peck someone's eyes out.

nikto · 1 year ago

Here's dollars-to-donuts
that VICKY ISEMAN IS DEAD.

Mike_G · 1 year ago

Seems like John McCain was married to more than ONE woman at a time! Wow, polygamy! John McCain believes in polygamy!

McThuselah was going to win Utah anyway - now it's a dead certainty!

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Obama's answer to whether or not he would ever leave Michelle Obama if she were sick or dying, "I think both my supporters and those who know my family could answer that question for you. I would never leave Michelle... Never... Never... Never! My family means everything to me. I couldn't leave her or the children we've had for any other woman to create another family. Some might be able to find it in their character to do such a thing, but I couldn't. I could never leave my spouse or my family, especially if she were sick."

McCain's answer, "Get AWAY from me!"

mirth · 1 year ago

I see that payoffs to Rielle Hunter are paying off.

"Edwards ex-mistress rules out paternity test"

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080809/D92F23...

Hey John E! I want my $ back.

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

Okay, I think ruling out a paternity test is just STUPID for everyone involved. They might as well get the truth - PRO or CON out there. Not having a paternity test just keeps the question alive for eternity. Eventually, that kid is going to get a paternity test. Might as well do it NOW!

Rob Mule · 1 year ago

Where's Maury Povich on this????

cowboyneok · 1 year ago

true that.

Happy_Housewife · 1 year ago

Didn't any of you people ever read "The Manchurian Candidate"? (Yes, I mean READ - it's a very good novel)

Eleanor Iselin - who is at one time both terrifying and downright dead-on accurate (and hilarious) in her insight about the American population - nailed the McCain marriage perfectly

"We'll get married right away. At the split second that is becomes legal under the great American flag, see, lover? We'll be as respectable as anybody else right at that instant, except just like everybody else, underneath. You know what I mean, lover? They're all tramps in their hearts and we'll want them to identify with us when the time comes to line up at the polls"

And that, my dears, is why the McCain adultery probably won't fly. We're all tramps, underneath....

Ann_in_KC · 1 year ago

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/...

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/steve_chapm...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10249... (It might need to come from Ross Perot?)