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AMERICAblog: Top Hillary surrogate on her speech last night: "She left her supporters empty"

  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    Now that's a Hilary (one L) I like!
  • SteamingPile · 1 year ago
    She burned her bridges last night. Pity she was on the wrong side of the river. If she's lucky, she'll get an offer to be the next Sec'y of HHS.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    good Hilary.
    bad Hillary blows it again. she's not the one.
  • FNReedie · 1 year ago
    Thank you, Hillary Rosen. It time for Hillary's supports to come out and unify the party -- because Hillary Clinton won't do it.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    you know, that line Hillary used about waiting to 'figure out how she would "use" her 18 million voters' brings to mind chimpy bloviating about how he'd earned political capital and he was ready to spend it.

    ugh.
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    the RIAA - I need no other reason to hate this person.
  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Well, I wasn't going to get into that :-)
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    LOL - yeah, I liked the post though, and what she had to say.
  • blackwolf · 1 year ago
    At some point these supporters are going to have to feel like they're being used. So then, how is all this going to play out in Washinton. From your perspective, has she burned her bridges? Has she crossed the point of no return in politics? Are there things that are "absolutely" unforgivable in circles of power?
  • dad · 1 year ago
    she passed up her last big opportunity to be big.

    she chose to be small.
    same as mcsame.

    shame.
  • michaelt · 1 year ago
    first of all, i think the hillary's supporters are dropping like flies. the thinking ones know it's over so her count of 18 million is not still 18 million.

    losers, with all due respect, do not set the agenda.

    making threats is no way to move forward. she's acting like a republican and it's repulsive.

    she overplayed her hand and hope she pays for it politically.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Yeah, already Obama has passed her by in California.

    She's been losing supporters like crazy, even though she seems to think Obama's the one losing them.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    You know, it's funny....in my neighborhood there are a ton of Obama yard signs. There have been in all fairness quite a few Hillary signs as well. I've noticed over the last few weeks that I see fewer Hillary signs. There is one down at the end of my street that had 2 signs in their yard and I drove out this morning and they are both gone. I think that was very telling.
  • BillP · 1 year ago
    Hillary Clinton had a chance to show she had the same level of leadership as Obama. A well-done concession speech, a committment to Obama and the Democratic ticket, and a thank you to all the 18 million voters who picked her would have set her up as an honorable contender and a person of class. She declined to show that leadership.

    As the one-L Hilary points out, Ms. Clinton has about 48 hours to at least show that she is realistic and pragmatic. She can still show that she accepts reality and will do what is required. This is not high leadership, ala Obama, but still would be credible. Her comment now has to be: "I thoroughly and deliberately considered my options, talked to party leaders, and have decided based on the facts on the ground that Obama has won. I will now support him for the Democratic ticket."

    If, instead, she persists beyond the 48 hours, and continues the "fight", then she will be perceived as a detriment to the Democratic Party and will forever be branded as a cynical and selfish individual. This will include Bill, also.

    So as the one-L Hilary says, the next 48 hours are crucial to the Clinton future. She already blew the big chance to take the high road.

    BP
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I love many of the Hillary Clinton supporters, including Hecate at Eschaton blog. We need them.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Great quote:

    "I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat."
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    STOP SAYING CRAP. PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON ARE FINE AND SO IS HILLARY!!!
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    :::crying now:::

    Let's come together.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Rahm has endorsed Obama.

    I think the floodgates are FINALLY opening.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Yes, the floodgates have definitely opened:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/4/112148/2...

    Lots of uncommitteds coming out for Obama and some Hillary Delegates switching to Obama.

    About time.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    "Using her 18 million supporters": that figure is bullshit since it's a number that's been rounded up; in any case, let's ask all 18 million if they would vote for her a second time. I'm guessing a lot of New Yorkers and Californians (among other non-hard-working Americans) would go for Obama now...
  • KerrynowCampau · 1 year ago
    And don't forget part of that 18 million is the rush followers doing his bidding
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    I am not a bargaining chip.

    I was struck by the parade of pet Clinton pols climbing the stage to do their obeisances last evening...talk about devalued chips.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I noticed Wasserman-Schultz there.

    And I used to think she had potential to be the real first female president.

    Blah.
  • Ksue · 1 year ago
    Yes. And of course our very own Sheila Jackson-Lee was just about first up on that stage.

    Devalued chips. Perfect phrase.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Keep your eyes and never let them wander on what's really important.
  • Bluestocking · 1 year ago
    Instead "she left her supporters empty", Obama's angry and party leaders trashing her. She said she was stepping back to think about her options. She is waiting to figure out how she would "use" her 18 million voters.

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    In a word...OUCH.
  • johnosahon · 1 year ago
    I AM SHOCKED about how people are SHOCKED about the behaviour of hillary, WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN?

    this WOMAN IS NOT GOING TO CONCEDE, if not that she is $30 million in debt, she could have started an independent campaign.

    I prefer cheney as obama's running mate than billary, at least with cheney, obama and him will be FIGHTING to run the country in private, also there will be 2 presidents as opposed to THREE.

    NOTHING THIS WOMAN DOES WILL SUPRISE me, UNLESS SHE DOES THE RIGHT THING, NOW THAT WOULD THROW ME FROM MY CHAIR ONTO THE FLOOR.
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    This is a great piece by Hilary Rosen. It will go a long way towards the healing process.

    You know it's over for Clinton when Taylor Marsh says she'll support Obama by working AGAINST getting McCain elected.
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Taylor Marsh said that? After all she's written against Obama? I'm amazed.
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    I was surprised too.
    It's not so much an Obama endorsement as it is anti MCCain message.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

    Comments on her website are still 'out there' and to me, they reek of ditto head 'operation chaos'.
  • FightForJustice · 1 year ago
    This woman has been an important and wise voice for Hillary Clinton throughout the campaign both on television and in print. She has spoken with reason and allowed me to find some good at the heart of many Clinton supporters. Hillary Rosen has been the woman that has kept me from painting all Clinton supporters with one brush stroke as either racists, bitter feminists, or just easily manipulated. And she was the voice that allowed me to talk with many Clinton supporters who were just like her, and to have a more peaceful debate of principle and issues.

    May the millions of good Democrats who supported HRC for a multitude of reasons pick this up as their battle cry...".I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat."
  • kirkaracha · 1 year ago
    She's stringing along her supporters so they can payoff her campaign debt with their donations.
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    It is mind boggling, that a loser is using her supporters as a bargaining chip.
    What kind of loser, makes demands, and try to position herself to achieve her own personal ambitions, over her party? Why that would be Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Good for Ms. Rosen, who obviously puts her party above her candidate.
    Now only if Clinton's other supporters can see the the light, and not be
    foolish enough to vote for the Bush third term.
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    Joe Lieberman?
  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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    For those who aren't paying attention:
    Hillary has not conceded.
    She is in fact still campaigning today.
    Her people are harassing Obama supporters, delegates & superdelegates, trying to switch their votes.
    So, no, it ain't over.
    And stopping Hillary from dividing us is neither a waste of time nor divisive.
    It is the very opposite, and it needs to be done now.
    We're the only ones who can do it.
    There will be NO moving on until we do.
    It is Hillary who needs to move on. Now.
    Make it so.
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  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Hilary Rosen has chosen the right way to show unity between the two camps. I was beginning to think that all Hillary supporters were just crazy, Ms Rosen proves me wrong and I am glad. It is surprising and refreshing to hear someone who was deeply committed to their candidate acknowledge the loss, even if the candidate won't.
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Ms Rosen is on MSNBC right now with Andrea Mitchell. She sounds a whole lot softer in her criticism of HIllary than in the article she wrote.
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    The more I think about Hillary's speech last night, the angrier it makes me. If she wants to use her supporters to force her way onto the ticket...go to hell!
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Hilary Rosen, Rahm Emanuel, the Clinton backers in MN who met with Obama for 30 minutes in St. Paul. . . the vast majority of Clinton supporters are going to unite with the rest of us. I think the best tack with the Clintons now is to ignore them as being history, which in fact they are. They are a distraction from our real fight. Now if only Ron Wyden would s--- or get off the pot. He is the last remaining Oregon superdelegate not to declare.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Take it back and slap my hands. He finally did it--came out for Obama.
  • econprofes · 1 year ago
    I can't believe I am saying this but I am in love with HILARY. Bravo, there is too much at stake for the Democratic Party and the United States for the narcissistic Hillary to be pushing a self serving agenda at the detriment of the entire Democratic Party and the United States.

    Think about it, if Hillary Clinton true motives were to get Universal Health care implemented and ending the war she voted for, then the best way to do this is to support the Democratic nominee who shares her vision and just make sure Obama follows through on these agendas. It is crystal clear after last night that she only cares about her self and gratifying her ego.

    I believe, no I know (because I was a two time Clinton supporter (Bill) and have worked along side some of Hillary Clinton's supporters in the past) that 99% of Hillary Clinton supporters care more about the Democratic Party and this country a lot more than they care about an individual, even if their last name is Clinton.

    Please follow Hilary’s example and speak up. I wish other Hillary supporters would have enough love for the party and Country to come out like the "good" Hilary has done and let the narcissistic Hillary (two L’s like in hell) know that you are not going to be a bargaining chip for anyone’s selfish and egotistical motives that could be the demise of the future of this Party and our great Country and could potentially continue the unnecessary killing of our young people in Iraq in which Hillary Clinton is directly responsible for.
  • stranded · 1 year ago
    I'm completely sympathetic to the cause that these people believe in in wanting a woman to be president. I want it too. But Ms. Clinton has proven time and again what a terrible diplomat she'd be. It's not gutsy to say you'd obliterate Iran. Her behavior has been unacceptable to me. I'm glad to know more about Ms. Rosen, and it's hard to not respect her, but I just can't give anyone credit who can look past all the faults of HRC and come to the conclusion that she's a better candidate than Obama. Only now does she see the light? It's hardly an endorsement I take seriously.
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    She didn't do a good job running her campaign, her campaign was toxic and divisive, she's broke, she repeatedly lied about her experience, her behavior has been inappropriate and ungracious [such as last night], she didn't bother to do her homework before voting to go to war in Iraq, she threatened to nuke Iran, and I won't even go into all the Clinton baggage.... Finally, she lost the election.

    So someone please explain to me how she's more electable than Obama? How she can stay in the race?
  • jr · 1 year ago
    kudos to Hilary Rosen
  • ezpz · 1 year ago
    Charlie Rangle was just on MSNBC and he also admitted that Clinton could have/SHOULD have been more generous and the NY Delegation wants some answers from her.
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Good, finally! It's high time Democratic leaders began demanding answers.

    As I said down below, the more I think about her speech last night, the angrier I become.

    In addition to her toxic campaign, her assertions that McMore and her passed the commander-in-chief test while Obama didn't, her refrain that she was the most electable candidate on the evening of Obama's historic victory, her refusal to acknowledge his victory, her lip service to wanting to unite the party while trying to force Obama into a position of having to place her on the ticket, trying to use her supporters as a wedge and a bargaining chip, McAuliffe's intro of her last night as the "next president".... It all makes me furious!

    [Oh, and by the way Hillary, thanks ever so much for giving McCain all those talking points to use against Obama.]

    I've heard that the overwhelming majority of her supporters are writing in to her website, as she requested last night, asking to fight on until Denver. WTF!?!??!

    She lost! If she wants to unite the Democratic party and win against McCain then it's time to acknowledge she lost. It's time to endorse Obama and campaign for him starting today. If she doesn't, then she's helping McCain.
  • FunMe · 1 year ago
    I wrote to her to - signed up for her web site and gave her a piece of mind in the "note" section when you sign up your email.
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I sent her a polite note too, saying it's time to concede and endorse Obama.
  • red_dwarf · 1 year ago
    Someone give this woman a hug. What poetic and patriotic verbage. Sent a chill down my spine to hear such eloquence.
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    i ave heard a rumor about the AIPAC speeches today by Obama and Clinton. i heard that Obama was strongly positive in a laboured way about Hillary, but that Hillary, while she gave him a nod at the begiining took some underhanded digs at him later in the speech.

    anyone clarify?
  • cosanostradamus · 1 year ago
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    She kept pounding away at her superior experience (same as Monica's, plus honorary Knesset member), as if she were still running for Pres. Her Hillbots are actively harassing Superdelegates today, trying to get them to switch to her for Pres. She's still running, folks. She's not "grieving" or contemplating or waxing nostalgic for what was or what might have been: She's using the "grace period" Obama has given her to concede to instead actively try to steal the nomination out from under him by threats, intimidation, and underhanded dirty-dealing & backstabbing.

    My post below and my website list places you can go to contact your Superdelegate. Put a stop to this outrageous, destructive bullshit TODAY.
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  • interlude · 1 year ago
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/04/use...

    Carter warns Obama not to pick Clinton as Veep
  • LeslieB · 1 year ago
    I doubt he will since the Clinton campaign is now trying to blackmail him into it. He can't afford to give the VP spot to Hillary, who's repeatedly said she passes the commander-in-chief test while he doesn't. It would make him look weak.
  • FreedomEagle2 · 1 year ago
    I'm so sick of the Clintons. At one time I looked the other way when they involved themselves in endless scandals and even implicated in the death of Vince Foster. But Bill and Hillary's racist tactics in the campaign were the last straw. The Clintons have been a stain on our Party for decades and they need to get out of politics.
  • nsr · 1 year ago
    Last night, HRC showed the same political tin ear that turned a sure thing into a meltdown. If she thinks her candidacy is still relevant she's even more deluded than I thought. But you have to give her credit for consistency-- since Iowa, it's been one disasterous mis-step after another. I'd say last night was the cherry on the sundae, but she seems determined to keep going until she's firmly established in the public mind as the next Harold Stassen, so who knows.
  • Bambleweeny57 · 1 year ago
    Hillary's disgraceful exit has not compeletely surprised me but it deeply saddens me.

    Obama has invited this surreal behavior by repeatedly refusing to point out the blatant misrepresentations and lies of the HRC campaign. Ironically, he has afforded her too much respect. The Obama campaign has responded like a first time parent while HRC has behaved like a spoiled child, repeatedly exploiting it's parents love, never satisfied with unjustified gains, always demanding more while it's irrational behavior goes unopposed. This has been his biggest mistake of the primaries and I hope this experience has tutored the parent for dealing with her going forward. We need the tough love of a 2nd time parent from him now. Hillary needs to deliver on her promised support, BEFORE she gets ANY candy.

    There is a second lesson for Obama going forward - never let your opponent create a narrative based on falsehoods. The whole popular vote idea was farcical and easily shot down but Obama allowed Hillary to build a narrative of continued relevance upon it. Obama cannot allow his Republican opponents to create false narratives and I believe that he will not. I understand Obama's reticence to tear away Hillary's fig leaf - no Democrat could have known the depths of narcissism and divisiveness HRC would demonstrate because none of us wished to believe the Republican Clinton hate-mongering. Until she turned on her own party and their principles. I guess it goes to show that just sometimes there is a wolf, regardless of the track record of the crier.
  • HelenaMontana · 1 year ago
    Better late than never. Welcome aboard, Hilary.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    That is very interesting John. A very good sign that some Clinton supporters are starting to get it. It actually brings up some questions I have that maybe you or somebody else can answer. Seeing as Ms. Rosen is on the HRC Foundation Board, will she, or HRC as a whole continue to endorse Mary Bono here in California? What if Bono doesn't actively fight and speak out against my marriage rights being stripped in the California constitution? Being a congressperson gives Bono the unique position of speaking to the fight here in California for gay marriage at a national level. Will Bono do this? Does she deserve the support of Ms. Rosen or HRC if she doesn't?

    I'll just say that I am happy to see HRC is part of the broad coalition of advocacy, labor, legal, religious and other organizations working with Equality California to fight the initiative here that will strip me and the man I'm marrying next month of our equal rights. It's good to see them on board.

    As I typed this, breaking news just came out here. The California Supreme Court announces they will NOT intervene in the marriages set to begin this month. Let's go folks, I'm ready to fight.
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    Great comment and great news.

    Where are the public endorsements for Obama from Jimmy Carter and, more importantly, Albert Gore?

    UPDATE:

    The Guardian article says that Carter formally endorsed Obama last night. I haven't seen news of this. Anyone?
  • interlude · 1 year ago
    see my previous post..it includes advice to avoid hillary
  • mirth · 1 year ago
    OT & repeat comment:

    Recall Heather Wilson, Bush sycophant and Gonzales operative in AttorneyGate? She vacated her House seat to run for the Senate and she has lost to her challenger Steve Pearce, who is a jerk, but Tom Udall will easily take him out in November...more easily than he might have Wilson.

    Udall (along with Wilson and Pearce) had vacated his House seat to run for the Senate seat of retiring Pete Domenici. Now Wilson and Pearce are out of the House and Udall is a guaranteed Dem win for the new Senate.

    This is Big and very happy news to New Mexicans.

    http://www.abqjournal.com/news/breaking/apsenra...
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    Hahahahaha!!! [points finger, laughs at Heather Wilson]

    Karma's a female dog.