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Apparently the chess master does not have to fight for anything at all--he just thinks real hard and say he wants it a few times and it comes to pass. No need to bother with all that fierce fighting or advocacy crap. We mere mortals with our two eyes and two ears are simply too blinded by his multi-dimensional brilliance that we can't comprehend his mysterious ways with the political chess boards. We'll see how wrong we are, just you wait.
I've already caught glimpse of the excuse for no PO if it happens -- it's because of the meanie political blogs/naysayers sapping off Obama's magical political touch and all the people who didn't fight hard enough for his agenda. IOW, we didn't make him do it so it's all our fault. Funny how making it all about us lets him off the hook, isn't it? Rah, rah.
I do not care that Sarah Palin might become president. If we enact idiot republican policies, we might as well have idiot republicans in charge.
Obama is cutting the throat of any possible democratic future by his incomprehensible republican policies.
Please don't confuse what Baucus and Snowe came up with as anything that Republican citizens want. It may be what some Republican elected officials want but if they vote for it, they won't be there in 2010 either.
Instapuke is linking here --- with obvious glee.
... and therein lies our problem. Some portion of people, who allege to be on the left - but you gotta wonder, are hyperventilating and making just plain ridiculous claims.
Limbaugh loves you. You are so damn good at furthering his message.
The only question I can see is, are you a righty concern troll or really a progressive who actually is incapable of seeing how useful the extreme bs you spouted helps the right.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
Uh, like Obama? THis is HIS message. They aren't saying anything HE does not want them to say.
Your emotions are right--you're definitely getting screwed by the Chicago Crew. Unfortunately, your Weltanschauung is based on the wrong set of facts, so you still don't understand WHY you're getting screwed.
Keep ruminating and, one day soon, you'll wake up and smell that mountain-grown, peasant-picked, cooperative-sold, fair-trade coffee. ;)
and his apologists sound like writers from LOST with their 11-dimensional chess, trying to write their way out of the next corner.
I have a sincere question here though. The Senate is where everything is getting screwed right? Everything I've seen from the House is that no way, no how, will a bill pass that doesn't have a public option. Can they kill the merged bill if they don't approve? Is it possible? If it is, do they have the balls?
Personally - I want this legislation stomped out if it doesn't have a public option. I want it sitting on the desk and for Obama to toss the pen out the window. I'm just not entirely sure how the system works.
Am I the only person on this sight who still thinks about health care? This is exactly why we won't get it.
So instead of massive help to fix the economy we get big bailouts for the big bankers and temporary feeble fixes for the rest of us, like Cash for Clunkers.
And as for health care, as early as last April the White House said that their goal for health care reform was a bipartisan bill and to get a bipartisan bill they would happily give up both single payer and a public option.
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In fact, if you look at the transcripts, the Obama aides' language is *stronger* in supporting the public option than it has been in the past -- all of them had clear talking points to say that the PO was the best way to contain costs (rather than just one way among others).
FWIW, here was Jarrett's explanation of Obama's position: "He's pushed for it, certainly, but he's realistic to say we've got to look at all options. He has said very clearly he thinks it's the best option, and we'll see what happens."
My interpretation is that he thinks the best way to overcome the opposition of the Snowe, Lieberman, Nelson et al. group is to coax them into accepting a PO gradually & behind the scenes, rather than shoving it down their throats. Maybe it's a stupid strategy -- it's certainly less satisfying -- but it's scarcely the "multi-dimensional chess" people like to sneer at.
Obama: "[A]ny plan I sign MUST include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a PUBLIC OPTION."
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obam...
rather, i'm pointing out that the poster's suggestion that obama "never explicitly demanded a public option" is demonstrably FALSE.
It's not like he's been explicitly demanding a PO on a routine basis, then suddenly had his aides soften his language today (which is what the post suggests).
sure, i'll grant that obama has been walking away from the public option for some time now--today his advisers just took a few more steps in that direction. so maybe for obama, walking away from the PO--like change--is incremental.
-A new national health exchange open to all Americans
-A new public plan available to all Americans to compete with private insurance
-An employer mandate to provide health insurance
-A minimum medical loss ratio for insurance companies
-To allow people to import cheaper drugs from Canada or Europe
-To repeal the ban that prevents the government from directly negotiating with drug companies
I wouldn't give Rahm the time of day.
Death to the Left!
What kind of "patriot" wishes death on millions of his fellow citizens?
Oh, a fascist Palin-drone. No wonder.
To wish death on an ideology is not the same as death to the deluded people who believe in it. I want death to the left too. Let this killer ideology die, and let the people who believed in it find a better way.
(This is why many of us are not right or left, but instead are simply for smaller government. We're libertarians.)