On a sad note, Sidney Pollock has died of cancer at age 73. RIP.
grandma
· 1 year ago
Good morning
NY Times has an op ed today saying Obama should take public financing as he made a vow. Obama didn't make a vow to do so.........if I remember correctly he said he would consider doing so.
And the article makes no mention of how McCain scammed the system.
NY Times has an op ed today saying Obama should take public financing as he made a vow. Obama didn't make a vow to do so.........if I remember correctly he said he would consider doing so.
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Yeah, that's bullshit.
Obama said he'd talk to McCain and see of something good be agreed upon.
McCain's subsequent breaking of the law should make that moot.
Fuck the NY Times.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
um...."and see if something COULD be agreed upon...."
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
you can just edit your original post instead of adding a corrigendum.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Thanks...didn't realize that.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
while bill clinton is lying about the popular vote, jeralyn at talkleft is clinging to the electability argument like a dog with a bone. the argument is that obama looks weak in the rust belt. the irony is that this is partly because the post-primary bounce has been put on hold by the sore losers and partly because hillary has inflamed her white, low-information supporters against obama. i expected her and bill to start playing nice by now.
jeralyn finishes with 'you have to wonder what the superdelegates are thinking'. indeed.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
She obviously doesn't know what she's talking about.
It's Appalachia, not the Rust Belt.
Or, she's conveniently shifting the territory north and west so it doesn't sound like Hillary's getting the Racist Hillbilly vote.
In any case, with Jim Webb as Veep and maybe a poverty tour in Appalachia with John Edwards, I don't see a horrible problem there.
And, if there is a horrible problem there, they are not likely to vote for Hillary over John McCain anyway.
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Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
well 'rust belt' was my characterization of the SF Chronicle piece that she cites. no democrat can win KY, IN or WV so you have to focus on the other states where obama is weak in the polling (MI, OH and PA)
And he'd be doing a lot better if some crazy woman wasn't coming after him with a butcher knife everyime he turned a corner.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
didn't realize Obama was so strong in PA.
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Steve, I'm not sure of your point here. Are you suggesting that Jeralyn is off target or that her broader point is?
I know you are a Clinton supporter, but do you actually think that "at this point" there is still a race to determine Hillary the victor?
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
nobody cares who i support, but for the record, i was neutral until march, when hillary started racializing the primary and siding with McCain on foreign policy.
clinton and her supporters have to be respected (obama sets a good example), but talkleft has gone off the rails. the only thing i like there is that they don't trash obama directly (they just support the clintons in their trashing of obama).
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Steve, I wasn't speaking about everybody, I was speaking from me to you. And yes I acknowledge your feelings in the race about Hillary, this is neither good nor bad, just a matter of choice no matter when you decided whom to support .
I think that the trashing of either candidate has gone "off the rails" but I do hope that come June, people do come together within the party. I would hate to think that other Dem's are voting for John McCain (and all he represents) just because they are angry at the the other candidate.
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
More on the NY Times shoddy reporting.
McCain campaign discovered to be coordinating with a 527, in violation of FEC rules:
The Wall Street Journal’s Laura Meckler writes that President Bush and John McCain’s joint fund-raiser in Phoenix tomorrow will be the “first time in three months” the two will be seen together. But the McCain campaign is trying its hardest to ensure cameras don’t capture the moment:...
That's okay McWar .....we have plenty of pics of you hugging (hanging on) Bush..
grandma
· 1 year ago
Last nite on CNN Ed Henry said if there were any pics they would not be available until later on....Henry said that would be "after the evening news"...
Bush_Bites
· 1 year ago
Whenever McCain tries a trick like that, they should show the photo of McCain hugging Bush.
Or moveon.org should rent time to show it during the news coverage.
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Good morning.
Sydney Pollock, 1935-2008. R.I.P. Thanks for Tootsie, thanks for Michael Clayton, thanks for a great run of movies! Loved 'em all!
lynchie
· 1 year ago
Have you noticed of late that Hillary has stopped confronting Obama on the issues--Healthcare, War, Poverty, Taxes, Gas Prices, etc., and gone after him about the white working poor, race, bad things happening to him, etc.. Her cabal has obviously realized that the issues can't be debated now it is down to personal attacks solely and trying to convince the Super Delegates only she is electable. In my humble opinion I would prefer to vote for someone who is going to try to change the status quo, who has fresh ideas, who will involve new blood (not the same old Bill Clinton cronies who had their chance) and if Obama loses he loses but at least he had a vision of what might be. I am still convinced that Washington only talks about change it never actually does anything. It has Committee meetings and we all get a little excited, just as we did in the last election until Pelosi sobered us up with "impeachment is off the table" and the continued vote for war funding with no end in sight. When Obama is elected I expect the acrimony between the Whitehouse and Congress to be bitter and hard fought. The current crop of ass clowns in Washington are going to want their cronies appointed to key positions, ambassadorships, etc. and if Obama is smart he will appoint the best possible person. This hasn't happened in 50 years because nepotism and reach around politics has been the norm.
KarenMrsLloydRichards
· 1 year ago
The Zionist mobs, led by Wolf Blitzer, today will be brandishing pitchforks and torches, chasing Jimmy Carter as he lurches across the blasted landscape, yelling "Traitor!" "Death to the Traitor!"
Polly_Tics
· 1 year ago
Wolf Blitzer has long given up the title of unbiased reporter. Heck, he isn't even a reporter anymore, he's more like a repeater than anything else...
DCinDC
· 1 year ago
McCain and Bush need to support our troops! Support the Webb GI Bill!
"Two lopsided votes in the U.S. Senate last week reveal a power vacuum in the Republican Party.
President Bush’s influence is diminishing quickly, Sen. John McCain has not yet established himself as the party’s leader, and Senate Republicans are worried more about their own reelection prospects than they are about the need to stand by either man.
“The Senate has already basically decided to disregard Bush,” said one GOP Senate aide."
So according to this article the Republican party is in disseray and acording to PollingReport.com http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm 67% of the American Public is against this war , so I just have to wonder aloud:
Why don't the Democrats introduce a vote to END THE WAR IN IRAQ? and, Is my party playing politics with the lives of American service men and woman?
warsaw
· 1 year ago
It just hit me. On all the lists of possible VP candidates for Obama not one has ever included Barney Frank. I guess the most frequently given answer to why this is so (if it were ever asked) would probably be, "Isn't it obvious?" Well, what's obvious about it? He's one of the most respected congressmen on the hill by his peers on both sides of the aisle; he is an amazing speaker; he's older than Obama and has been around much longer so he knows the ways of the Congress better than just about anyone including in which closets the skeletons are hanging (having one of his own, albeit now open); he's screamingly funny; he's Jewish: and he's snuggly. In what world would such a candidate be out of hand eliminated? A world in which every one thinks that no one else would vote for a gay man. It's the second hand fear and prejudice conventional wisdom that Hillary has been so invested in lately. "I'm not racist/sexist/homophobic/ xenophobic, but you are! And he/she REALLY is!" Imagine Barney as a candidate. How deftly he would handle McCain and how he would own all the VP debates, (If Charlie Crist is the Repub candidate, watch out for flying beads); the jokes about a Queen being in the White House would be delicious, and Barney is so prescient about what's coming down the road that he would be like radar for Obama. (more cute jokes about gaydar) Barney on the ticket would force the African-American community to confront just how deep it's homophobia is; it would bring even the log cabin denial junkies around: it would solidify the still wobbly coalition of blacks, gays and Jews: and it would back into a corner the white male vote which Hillary so cherishes and make even more obvious the fact that they vote on hate and intolerance, isolating them into a block which MCain will be forced to own. Yes, there would be drawbacks. Blowjobs might return to national politics; there are still organized anti-gay groups which would be revitalized, swiftboating of Barney would be appalling (but it might take swiftboating dollars away from those that would be used against Obama; and America might actually go to hell in a handbasket because of this depraved ticket.
&BTW: There is much talk about how much power the VP will have with references to Cheney. The next president can end that in a heartbeat. All of the power Cheney has was ceded to him by Bush because he's stupid/lazy/crazy and can be rescinded by a stroke of Obama's pen. He can cut the staff of the VP, send him to so many far-flung funerals and make him roll so many Easter eggs that he/she will have no time to wage a war. Not saying Obama would do that.
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NY Times has an op ed today saying Obama should take public financing as he made a vow.
Obama didn't make a vow to do so.........if I remember correctly he said he would consider doing so.
And the article makes no mention of how McCain scammed the system.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/opinion/27tue...
only fitting he's demolished his party.
failure. republican failure.
Obama didn't make a vow to do so.........if I remember correctly he said he would consider doing so.
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Yeah, that's bullshit.
Obama said he'd talk to McCain and see of something good be agreed upon.
McCain's subsequent breaking of the law should make that moot.
Fuck the NY Times.
jeralyn finishes with 'you have to wonder what the superdelegates are thinking'. indeed.
It's Appalachia, not the Rust Belt.
Or, she's conveniently shifting the territory north and west so it doesn't sound like Hillary's getting the Racist Hillbilly vote.
In any case, with Jim Webb as Veep and maybe a poverty tour in Appalachia with John Edwards, I don't see a horrible problem there.
And, if there is a horrible problem there, they are not likely to vote for Hillary over John McCain anyway.
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Michigan--Obama over Mccain
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Ohio--Obama over McCain
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Pennsylvania--Obama over McCain
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
I'm not sure of your point here. Are you suggesting that Jeralyn is off target or that her broader point is?
I know you are a Clinton supporter, but do you actually think that "at this point" there is still a race to determine Hillary the victor?
clinton and her supporters have to be respected (obama sets a good example), but talkleft has gone off the rails. the only thing i like there is that they don't trash obama directly (they just support the clintons in their trashing of obama).
I wasn't speaking about everybody, I was speaking from me to you. And yes I acknowledge your feelings in the race about Hillary, this is neither good nor bad, just a matter of choice no matter when you decided whom to support .
I think that the trashing of either candidate has gone "off the rails" but I do hope that come June, people do come together within the party. I would hate to think that other Dem's are voting for John McCain (and all he represents) just because they are angry at the the other candidate.
McCain campaign discovered to be coordinating with a 527, in violation of FEC rules:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/27/060/239...
The Wall Street Journal’s Laura Meckler writes that President Bush and John McCain’s joint fund-raiser in Phoenix tomorrow will be the “first time in three months” the two will be seen together. But the McCain campaign is trying its hardest to ensure cameras don’t capture the moment:...
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/26/mccain-afra...
That's okay McWar .....we have plenty of pics of you hugging (hanging on) Bush..
Or moveon.org should rent time to show it during the news coverage.
Sydney Pollock, 1935-2008. R.I.P.
Thanks for Tootsie, thanks for Michael Clayton, thanks for a great run of movies! Loved 'em all!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/opinion/26mon...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10638...
"Two lopsided votes in the U.S. Senate last week reveal a power vacuum in the Republican Party.
President Bush’s influence is diminishing quickly, Sen. John McCain has not yet established himself as the party’s leader, and Senate Republicans are worried more about their own reelection prospects than they are about the need to stand by either man.
“The Senate has already basically decided to disregard Bush,” said one GOP Senate aide."
So according to this article the Republican party is in disseray and acording to PollingReport.com
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
67% of the American Public is against this war , so I just have to wonder aloud:
Why don't the Democrats introduce a vote to END THE WAR IN IRAQ? and,
Is my party playing politics with the lives of American service men and woman?
Imagine Barney as a candidate. How deftly he would handle McCain and how he would own all the VP debates, (If Charlie Crist is the Repub candidate, watch out for flying beads); the jokes about a Queen being in the White House would be delicious, and Barney is so prescient about what's coming down the road that he would be like radar for Obama. (more cute jokes about gaydar) Barney on the ticket would force the African-American community to confront just how deep it's homophobia is; it would bring even the log cabin denial junkies around: it would solidify the still wobbly coalition of blacks, gays and Jews: and it would back into a corner the white male vote which Hillary so cherishes and make even more obvious the fact that they vote on hate and intolerance, isolating them into a block which MCain will be forced to own.
Yes, there would be drawbacks. Blowjobs might return to national politics; there are still organized anti-gay groups which would be revitalized, swiftboating of Barney would be appalling (but it might take swiftboating dollars away from those that would be used against Obama; and America might actually go to hell in a handbasket because of this depraved ticket.
&BTW: There is much talk about how much power the VP will have with references to Cheney. The next president can end that in a heartbeat. All of the power Cheney has was ceded to him by Bush because he's stupid/lazy/crazy and can be rescinded by a stroke of Obama's pen. He can cut the staff of the VP, send him to so many far-flung funerals and make him roll so many Easter eggs that he/she will have no time to wage a war. Not saying Obama would do that.