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Her Classmates.com profile says she attended Garfield High School in LA...maybe gay classmates could give her a flavor of the numbers involved with this "lifestyle"?
P. S. My bad, it's under Commerce...has a Secy been confirmed there yet?
"The Berdache" Nation. Has a nice ring to it. ;-)
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20031024031012/http:...
After constantly seeing attacks like: "Homosexuals constitute less than 1% of the population, but they are responsible for 70% of child molestations," most of which get their figures from Paul "The average age of death of homosexuals is 42" Cameron's discredited research.
Yes, as only the U.S. census has the scope to give us an accurate figure, excluding of course the huge number of totally closeted Larry Craigs.
pio@census.gov
With all due respect, these problems don't arise from gay activists. They arise from bigotry.
Ms. Endo:
In 1787, slaves of African origin in the United States, were counted as three-fifths of a human being.
By the year 2009, you should consider fellow gay and lesbian citizens at least that fraction of full humanity.
If you do not, you should keep such "pronouncements" to yourself, and your uncivil tongue in your head.
Sincerely,
Speak for yourself, sweetie...Oh, and update your examples like your quaint pre-Stonewall reference to Wladziu Valentino Liberace to something nearer to our present web-enabled post-Stonewall 21st century era.
This is really no different than saying I'm German-American -- that's an identity. It includes several fixed traits such as fair skin and eyes, certain facial features, etc, but more importantly it's about origins, shared family history and culture.
And people do identify with being gay -- it's a culture, a shared set of experiences and challenges. To say it's only about the immutable (and clinical) sexual attraction trait is to deny so much of our humanity.
Al Pacino in "Angles in America": I am not a homosexual. I am a heterosexual man who has sex with men.
But really that's a distraction. The point isn't that people can choose or not choose to claim an identity. The point is that, for those of us who do claim "gay", it's about more than a genetic trait or sex.
i.e.,
Q. Which hand is your dominant hand? or Which hand do you use for most tasks?
Choices: Right, Left, Mixed, No answer
John, who should we be writing to?
They need to do a complete and fair count of each group of people in this country.
It would be amazing to fine out just how many of us really exsist in this country alone.
Back in the 1970's our population was estimated at 10%, but today with the LGBT grouping us all together we should make up 15 to 20 % and if this is true then Government has to make great changes to represent us correctly and fairly. They may know this and that may be why they dont want to count us. If true; we need more representation or we are not suppost to be taxed. (Money Talks) This will definitly get things moving for us. Know your rights and stand up for them Idenify yourself as an AMERICAN with the same rights as everyone else in America. Remember the Haters labeled us and invested billions into idenifing us as the group to hate; they will not recieve the support when they want to hate Americans. DON"T LET THEM LABEL YOU. You are human and equal in all aspects. Everyone needs to learn how to protect themselves until the laws are in place, so go out and purchase that firearm and go to the shooting ranges and learn how to use it. Hate groups are on the rise and as we fight for our rights they will target us. Stand up and be counted write your represenitives requesting a true count.
Please note, however, the ethnic/racial categories are counted and count for poltiical issues. My advice? Check "Other" and write in "Irish" or "Ellis Islandish" or "Vampire" or "North American" or even "Mayflowerish."
Gays are inivisible, non-existent: therefore we need'nt worry about any "rights" for the ghosts.
They have a lot of trouble getting co-operation anyway, and a lot of Democratic politicians are dependent upon us being counted.
If we let them know that their policy would cause a lot of non-co-operation, I am pretty sure they would relent and change this policy.
We do not need to blindly co-operate with these people.
Geez, should I wear a sombrero and have next to me a tequila.
And she wonders why people call her a stupid b****!
Geez!
the actual facts would be inconvenient, especially to those of us whose religious values are so deeply held that they cannot be allowed out into the daylight.
Best to just keep clenching everything real real tight so nothing ever gets out. Right, Father?
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Hi,
I won't be participating in the 2010 census because it will be a
useless tool for solving many of our problems, with flawed data.
I understand that people in same-sex marriages or domestic
partnerships are expected to enter "unmarried partner". Further down
in the form, questions about health insurance ask how someone obtains
insurance. Of the 8 choices, the only option for a person insured
because of membership in a same-sex union (marriage, civil union,
state-recognized domestic partnership, or employer-recognized domestic
partnership), is "Any other type of health insurance or health
coverage plan – Specify". However, there are 2 options for medicare,
one for Indian Health Service, and two kinds of military-provided
options.
This is because we are not recognized as family members and therefore
cannot check "Insurance through a current or former employer or union
(of this person or another family member)." If my partner checked
this option, the Census would assume he's getting benefits from one of
his parents even though he's too old for that.
If the Census wants accurate data to solve America's problems with, it
needs to ask accurate questions to begin with.
This is especially galling because apparently in 2008 the marital
history section was reviewed so that in questions 20-22 you are asking
how many times someone has been married, when the (last) marriage was,
and whether they are widowers or divorcees.
Newt Gingrich can enter that he was married three times and divorced
twice, most recently married in 2000. You can find out that his
previous wife may or may not have health insurance since she was
divorced because she had cancer, so she can no longer get health
insurance get from his employer. What you learn about me from Census
2010 is that I live with a legal stranger who gets health insurance
through the power of voodoo. I'm sorry, he gets it via "other -
specify".
You may even spend my tax money to target me and my partner for
marriage (TwoOfUs.org for example) after incorrectly identifying my
demographic in the 2010 census. I'd find that highly insulting.
Sincerely,
-Scott
On the other hand, trying to be White while the census taker is looking at your Black face, is a whole 'nother matter.
I don't know anyone who thinks that being gay and being black (or asian or latino) are EXACTLY the same thing. But there are similarities. And differences. Many intelligent and reasonable people can see that there are similarities when disparate groups are denied rights simply for being who they are.
Sad that you are so hung up on wallowing in your own disenfranchisement that you can't walk a mile in someone else's shoes.
If you have a Life Partner (Make absolutely sure they know who both of you are) Clearly list it yourselves as Life Partners.
Even if you don't have a partner (Make sure it is clearly stated what your life is)
It is time we all start fighting for rights. We no longer march on washington, we do nothing we just stay quiet and let them do whatever they want and say whatever they want. It is time for no more MR. or MRS. Nice Gays..... IT IS TIME TO FIGHT AND STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS...... WE MUST ORGANIZE! WE HAVE TO DO THIS, OR WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!!!!! This can no longer be an option, or a fleeting thought. We need to do whatever it takes to get change to happen. Obviousily sitting back and being nice little quiet gays is not working. I DON'T CARE IF ALL THE GAYS NEED TO GET IN THEIR CARS AND BLOCK THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS.... WE MUST START DOING THINGS AND CONTINUE TO DO THEM OVER AND OVER, UNTIL IT STARTS TO SINK IN THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.. tHIS IS GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US. YOU CAN'T JUST GO TO A BAR EVERYNIGHT OR STAY IN YOUR HOMES AND FIGURE SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT. THIS IS THE FIGHT OF OUR LIFE....... WE MUST UNITED AND FIGHT DAMMIT........IT IS NOW OR NEVER! iTS TIME WE ARE ALOUD TO LIVE OUR LIVES IN A COUNTRY WE HELP PAY FOR. iF OUR MONEY IS GOOD ENOUGH, THEN SO ARE WE. THE PARTY IS OVER........................