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AMERICAblog: US eavesdropped on "phone sex" calls of US military officers, passed them around the office, thought they were funny

  • John Aravosis · 1 year ago
    Frist! (Sorry, just had to)
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    Hey John, are you longing for the "good ole days" of Dr. Demento???
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    oh jesus john don't revive that shit!
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    As disgusting as this is, it's the LEAST of the troubling abuses available when the government spies on it's own citizens.
    Why the thick headed and dim witted repukes and their minions the trolls cannot (or pretend to not be able to) understand why this extremely unconstitutional practice is troubling (to say the least) has always lead me to believe that they truly would be happier living in the USSR.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    So how long is it going to be before the "official phone surveillance list" gets released? and what are the chances that every Military officer, member of congress, state govenment official, news reporter, aid agency worker's numbers are on it???

    you can't tell me that these were "random" calls selected to monitor... out of the billions of calls made each day they happen on "pillow talk" and phone sex calls of military officers??? really???
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    How many of the people/groups monitored were Liberal?

    there are some differences between this and what Nixon did with Watergate... but the gist is the same.

    They're gathering information on peaceful organizations... how does that help the war on terror.

    don't EVEN get me started on listening in on the phone sex... if this Cournal was having phone sex with his gay lover, would the recording have been used as DADT evidence?
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    I just take that as a GIVEN.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    NSA awarded Adrienne Kinne a NSA Joint Service Achievement Medal in 2003 at the same time she says she was listening to hundreds of private conversations between Americans, including many from the International Red Cross and Doctors without Borders.

    "We knew they were working for these aid organizations," Kinne told ABC News. "They were identified in our systems as 'belongs to the International Red Cross' and all these other organizations. And yet, instead of blocking these phone numbers we continued to collect on them," she told ABC News.
    ---

    Those damned commie subversives at the Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders!!! nothing but international terrorist threats, the lot of em!

    /snark


    seriously... dude, where's my country?
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    Bush/Cheny sold it to the highest bidders.
  • JohnInTexas · 1 year ago
    Yeah, our Congress and Senate, who just gave them 850 billon dollars down payment
  • evan_la · 1 year ago
    No one really expected them to keep their promises, did they?

    It was obvious this would happen.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    Brian Ross is one of the few (or maybe the only one) at ABC who has been doing their job. I'm so glad this story is out in the mainstream media. Hard to refrain from saying "I told you so!"
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    And John Yoo should be in prison:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

    The NSA activities were justified by a classified Justice Department legal opinion authored by John C. Yoo, a former deputy in the Office of Legal Counsel who argued that congressional approval of the war on al Qaeda gave broad authority to the president, according to the Times.

    That legal argument was similar to another 2002 memo authored primarily by Yoo, which outlined an extremely narrow definition of torture. That opinion, which was signed by another Justice official, was formally disavowed after it was disclosed by the Washington Post.
  • scottinsf · 1 year ago
    I agree. It's amazing he's still such a big wig professor at UC Berkeley.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    something about that statement "a classified Justice Department legal opinion" seems very, very wrong.

    the law is for everyone, is it not? what's a 'classified legal opinion'?
  • Apphouse50 · 1 year ago
    What's really sad is that the reaction of millions in this country will be to blame the victims. "They shouldn't have been talking that immorality over the telephone. Serves them right." Case closed. I guarantee this will be heard repeatedly by Sixpack women and lots of Joes as well. And they won't spend a second thinking about the real issue here. Not one second.
  • OlderButWiser · 1 year ago
    Does anyone doubt that fascism is becoming embedded into the US?

    The Nazi Party instituted a great deal of privatization of state-owned enterprises during 1934-37, thus ridding itself of having to deal with them except through political means and demanding strict adherence to the Nazi philosophy and providing private profit along with revenues with which to expand the German empire.

    While George Bush is not politically sophisticated enough to have accomplished exactly the same goals as the Third Reich, other Neocons have successfully achieved a number of their goals, this bailout of Wall St. among them.

    I'm still pissed that Obama endorsed this Treasury giveaway. Isn't he aware that the foxes are in the henhouse? I'll vote for him, but I'll always believe we've been taken, once again, by the Bush regime. Everything done by this cabal of criminals must be undone as quickly as possible or this country is going to be lost for a long time.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    Don't the spy programs work with key words like any search engine?
    If sexy chats have been monitored wouldn't those calls have been winnowed and selected by sexy key words entered by a spy functionary?
    I guess there's always the chance some unlucky couple had unusual nicknames for private parts and various verb forms along the lines of:
    Partner B-Oh Johnny, rendition binLaden deep in my cave...
    PartnerA-Oh yeah, I'm locked on to some high explosive for ya baby.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    not really... say some of the key words were 'evidence, military, Army, Marine' for example.

    If you're in a conversation and in the military... the beginning of the sexy conversation could start off as innocent as 'how was your day?'. One of the key words comes up in conversation, taping begins and doesn't end until you hang up.

    the thing is... unless they're having phone sex at the office... how are their constitutional rights trumped by being in the military?

    thank you dick cheney... I hope you and lynn have TONS of phone sex while you're on the road, and these guys record and laugh at all of it.

    maybe some clips will wind up on the internet... for some reason I can picture them role playing, Sultan and the Harem girl?

    okay, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
  • sukabi1 · 1 year ago
    My bet is that any and all "keyword" database was thrown out early on... or is only used to pick up "tips" from the "rabble" and that the "high-end" targets (liberal organizations, congress, military officers, aid orgs, ect.) are part of a larger "phone book" monitoring process...
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    OK, so how will the Republicans blame this on Bill Clinton, The Gays, or poor people?
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    Well it IS our fault. There are too many gay men working for the GOP.
  • evan_la · 1 year ago
    I think it's time to drop some Fag Card(tm) cancellation notices in the mail.
  • Bostonian_Queer_in_Dallas · 1 year ago
    I am SO glad my tax dollars are going to such very high quality security practices. This is truly idiotic. Take away our freedoms so that perverted CIA people can listen to phone sex? Chimpy, the history books are going to read like comic novels about fifty years from now. What a great job your boys have done these 8 years. Kinda like how you fucked up an oil company and a baseball team, ain't it. What a fucking moron. And what a nation of fucking morons for allowing this shit to go down like this by electing and re-electing a subhuman simian frat boy.

    Now some want Caribou Barbie to carry it onward.

    Well that's okay, kids. I mean they are more fun to have a beer with!
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    if they get into office... my liver is going to give out, I'll be drinking all the time.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    That's "moran" to you, buddy!
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    Caribou Barbie lol.
  • Rob Mule · 1 year ago
    A good punishment for Caribou Barbie would be to jam her own thumb up her very own ass...
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    "she stuck in her thumb, and pulled out a plum. And said 'damn! why don't I digest these things like everyone else?'"
  • HowisitBushsfault · 1 year ago
    Sorry, John.

    The intercept operators were just enforcing the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, enacted by Senator Sam Nunn [D-GA] and a Democratic Congress and signed by Democratic President Bill Clinton.

    They had to keep listening to confirm that they're not gay.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    Wrong. They were acting under H.R. 6304 (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ), a bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purposes. The vote date was June 25, 2008. It amended FISA to include the domestic spying BUSH wanted so badly.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 1 year ago
    "Warrants? we don't need no stinking warrants!" - Dick Cheney
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    I was the target of NSA intercept while I was a USG employee working in Kuwait in the early 90s'. Came back to me as just a friendly reminder that the US Ambassador at the time did NOT have his head up his ass.
  • SCLiberal · 1 year ago
    I wish ABC would run this clip along with their story:
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=_KXZbVhx7lk

    or this:
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=CiZVcfFeus0

    The Senate roll call is here:
    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call...

    Only 15 senators voted no.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Unprotected phone sex leads to venereal mockery. Those guys and gals should be using protection. My goodness! ☺
  • dad · 1 year ago
    shame
  • Lyrebird · 1 year ago
    There may be some joking about these pillow-talk interceptions, but doesn't this just show how much Bush-Cheney-McCain "support" our troops?

    Sure, the repeated tours, stop-loss maneuvers, & attempts to deny PTSD care are more serious and dangerous, but think of what the families of active-duty troops have been going through. Now this.

    Anyone who's ever had a long-term long-distance relationship, living on those affection-crumbs sent over the phone, can relate to this offense against privacy. That's even w/o having your loved one in a combat zone. Have they no decency? (and I don't mean the couples talking sexy on the phone!)
  • medium lebowski · 1 year ago
    Kinda makes you wonder what kind of sensitive business information was overheard, and whether it, too, was passed around the office, or even passed outside the office. Sheesh.
  • EmGD · 1 year ago
    Take heed citizens. When you make the sex talk on the phone, try and make it interesting. Some guy at Fort Gordon is listening to it and he's bored easily.

    http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
  • GoLeftTV · 1 year ago
    If you think she's bad now, just have a look at the "real" Sarah Palin - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b51zWRBUS2U