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AMERICAblog: US oil firms drill, then ship it abroad anyway

  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Americans is ignert.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Uh, it's being reported that African Americans have been among those killed by Russian troops in Georgia. Russia is pissed off. Dumbass necons have awakened the Russian bear.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    The "dark skinned" troops are part of Dynacorp mercenaries the necons are using for their criminality everywhere these days.
  • Mike · 1 year ago
    Uh, John -- oil is traded on the world market... Generally most of the crude that is pumped from the ground (or waters) of the U.S. IS sold locally (e.g., to U.S. refineries).

    The upstream part of the business is separated by several firewalls from the downstream -- by regulation and law -- to prevent too tight of integration between end-market products and the exploration/production arm of the business. Upstream is regulated by the MMS and state / local entities (like the Texas Railroad Commission.) Downstream -- the part that buys crude on the open market to use in manufacturing of everything from aspirin to gasoline -- is regulated by a web of federal & state agencies that often mandate wildly different things.

    Fact: the U.S. uses far more crude that it produces so we are a NET importer.

    Moreover, the refineries on the West Coast (one of the heavier usage areas) run on heavy crude -- not the kind of stuff we get out of the Gulf of Mexico.

    When you start harping on "Big Oil", also remember that the super-majors have already said in congressional testimony that they don't need tax breaks or subsidies -- why? Economies of scale. The part of the industry that really pushes the "drill now" meme is made up of all the "independent" producers -- who sink or swim on price and tax breaks.

    Offshore drilling will need to be a part of the mix for decades -- the energy "debate" cannot devolve into false binary choices.

    And yes, I work for one of the oil giants -- and am one of those cited in the various analyses about how oil company employees support Obama more than the corporate-run PACs.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    I just find is really depressing to look out there and that no place on this planet will not have a hole punched in it and despoiled so for fat ass American SUV drivers can continue their mindless unsustainable consumption. There is that cost analysis. That doesn't enter your frame, though.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "I drilled Cindy when Carol was crippled"-John McCain
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Russian bear come for you next...
  • PeteWa · 1 year ago
    I am tempted to laugh at anyone who didn't already know that Obama's plan works.
    Except that I realize a lot of people don't drive (hello city slickers!) so why would they know, and a lot of people who do drive are just plain fucking stupid.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Russian bear is a angry bear. Russian bear slow to get moving but run fast and come for you now.
  • Rab · 1 year ago
    Does Russian bear shit in the woods?
  • Shak_El · 1 year ago
    One word for the bastards: Nationalization!
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    The neocons are causing wars all over the place to press for control over the entire world and the Russians, who have killed them all off or driven them out of their country, are saying, uh, NO!

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.a.....id=3510303

    “Of course the deaths of Russian peacekeepers and the destruction caused by the invading Georgians is an important reason why Medvedev has ordered Russian forces to intervene in the conflict. But there are bigger strategic reasons behind that. Moscow cannot let Saakashvili succeed in his gamble.”

    Of course, Russia knows that a Georgian victory would be an American one. It would allow the US to control the Caucasus and the Caspian Basin and their enormous energy resources through the assertion of its military power in the region.

    The United States and other NATO members have sent substantial aid to build up Georgia’s army. The American military has been training and equipping Georgian troops for years. At least 130 US soldiers, Marines and pilots are in Georgia to carry out a program, called Exercise Immediate Response 2008, on military cooperation.

    Georgia returned the favor, by sending about 2,000 troops to participate in the occupation of Iraq, which made it the third-largest contributor to “coalition forces” after the US and Britain.

    Georgia is also aggressively lobbying to join NATO and is supported by the United States in this goal. At the NATO summit in Bucharest in the spring, US President George W. Bush made one of the stronger speeches of his tenure, stating that the 26-member alliance should accept Georgia and Ukraine.

    “We must make clear that NATO welcomes the membership aspirations of Georgia and Ukraine and offers them a clear path forward towards that goal. My country’s position is clear: NATO should welcome Georgia and Ukraine into the Membership Action Plans”, he said.

    However, Germany and France argued against this. Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, said that a new NATO expansion would annoy Russia too much. Bush tried hard to change the German and French position at the summit but he failed.”
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    The neocon crazies hate Russia. They were trying to get Reagan to nuke them back then. Bill Kristol said, "What's the point of having nuclear weapons if you don't use them." They were shut down but now they're running wild in this administration and we see the results.
  • aibi · 1 year ago
    Back in the '70s, I lived in southern Louisiana and knew a few guys who worked on drilling platforms looking for oil in the Gulf of Mexico. If no oil was found, the drilling pipe was pulled and the platform was dismantled and moved to the next spot to drill. (In fact, it's ton of work by an entirely different crew to either build or dismantle a platform - they're huge, so once a platform is built, it would normally stay put.) If they hit oil, they continued drilling to the 'sweet spot' and then shut the platform and moved it to the next place to drill. But before they shut the drilling rig down, they capped the oil well; no pumping rigs and their platforms were waiting in the wings to pull that oil out of the Gulf's seabed.
    This was in the 70's, for gawd's sake, during the oil embargo when gas supplies were so low that gas was being rationed; people waited in multi-block long lines or were assigned specific days that they could buy gas - if they could find a gas station that even had gas in some places. And all the while, the oil companies were capping known wells.

    It comes as no surprise to me that the oil companies are shipping their/our black gold over seas; I'd already realized that a lot of their record profits were undoubtedly coming from those wells drilled 30 years ago. This push for more drilling is total B*** S*** from every perspective
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    It's all such a scam, I don't even comment about their motives. It's just such a given and it's a given the idiocy of the American public, too. I will comment about that because it's funny to me.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Every last one of the neocons are insane and they're running things at the top, folks.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Oh well, they're about to turn on the atom collider so it seems a bit moot. There's like an estimated 10% chance is will create a tiny black hole or maybe many of them. According the the physics, if that happens, it or they will sink to the center of this planet and because of the extreme pressure, matter will be forced into them and they will grow. Months will pass and we wont know anything but then the earthquakes will begin and very soon after that, we will be swallowed up, too. In the orbit where Earth once occupied, there will be a tiny black hole for eternity.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    Maybe another space faring race will happen by millions of years from now and discover our technolgy from Voyager or some other space probes and figure out that little black hole was where we lived. They will probably wonder if we were all like Busboy who lived here.
  • Õ¿Õ · 1 year ago
    The radiological signature from the event will be measurable. Flying by they'll probably say to another, yeah, there went another species looking for that Higgs boson particle.
  • paulbe · 1 year ago
    Oh well, I suppose the pigs that run the US need every foreign dollar they can get seeing as they have effectively destroyed the worth of the US dollar under a mountain of unrepayable debt.
  • Plisko · 1 year ago
    Yea, that's kind of what I was thinking when I made this;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRwDELGps48
  • cheetos · 1 year ago
    The whole 'Drill here, drill now' campaign to sway public opinion is nothing more than another Neocon/Big Oil scam. Read the 4 part investigative series report here:

    http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/tag/aswf/
  • lilybart · 1 year ago
    Drilling DOMESTICALLY
  • lilybart · 1 year ago
    Oops, meant , drilling DOMESTICALLY does not mean that that oil is for Americans or that it is not going to be priced at market rates, world market rates.

    Unless people are ready to nationalize energy companies, there will be no special price for Americans. Exxon et al are public companies with shareholders who would not want the oil given away cheaper to anyone.

    People and the so-called journalists are ignorant of basic economics. I am basically a secretary and receptionist at an investment firm (trained as an actress) and I know this for god's sake.
  • Eclectablog · 1 year ago
    This is a VERY BIG DEAL! Blog about this everywhere, folks. I did it here:
    http://eclectablog.blogspot.com/2008/08/mo-mone...