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AMERICAblog: VIDEO:Hillary laughs while NC governor says anti-gay slur

  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    I wondered if you saw that. Really, how is she a Democrat? You have to admit, she'll do anything to win the votes of rural bigots...that's why she thinks she'll win in the end.

  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    pandering to the Fox watchers is not a good idea.
  • caphillprof · 1 year ago
    So much for the Human Rights Campaign. I think we all know deep in our hearts, even those misguided folk on the Hillary bandwagon, that she will take the first opportunity to throw gays and "lesbians" overboard.
  • SPatrick · 1 year ago
    Are you kidding me? That is just insane. Pansy is not a term used exclusively for homosexuals. As a card-carrying homosexual, I see nothing NOTHING NOTHING wrong with that comment.

    This is just an over-the-top knee-jerk reaction. Stop being such a sissy and man up for a few minutes. Honestly John. Pansy? Really? This is the level of political discourse to which you need to resort? :)
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    SPatrick

    So using your logic, when people call Hillary a "bitch", they are calling her a female dog, and only when in heat, right? Gotcha! ;-)
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    the bitch
    the bitch
    the bitch is back
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl6qgB5Neow
  • Nigel Elliott · 1 year ago
    Pansy: Not only Webster, but other dictionaries (Oxford, Cambridge, and Dictionary.com) offer a similar definition for "pansy," describing it as a "disparaging" or "derogatory" term for an "effeminate or homosexual man."
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008...

  • joannahallmark · 1 year ago
    Oh please! Talk about fishing for a story. I don't like Clinton one bit, but this is reaching a little too much. When my candidate. Edwards, dropped out of the race, I instantly went for Obama, and have cringed at the ridiculousness of the Clinton's efforts to smear the man. Now I see that a site I normally respect has begun doing the same towards her. Clinton is clearly not anti-gay, and to imply such ideas is so ludicrous that it should be dispelled out of hand. Of course she is going to laugh at such a comment, would you hope she stand before the governor and scream that this was a great insult to gay people everywhere? Get a grip people and try not to lose your sense of humor.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    AND I THINK I CAN RIGHTFULLY CALL HER "BITCH" these days.

    If you are offended by that but not your sociopathi candidate, then I have two words for you.
    I will do this blog the decency of not posting them here.
    Or the other highly accurate and descriptive word that MOST CERTAINLY APPLIES TO HILLARY.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Where is ThePansyBastard when we need him?
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    hillary makes me cringe now. not quite as much as the chimp or his flying monkeys - but still.

    just saying.
  • shhhh · 1 year ago
    Don't tell anyone you heard it here but Hillary Clinton is a closet-case from way back.
  • paulko · 1 year ago
    This is a non-issue. My "pansies" are still going strong in my garden and are flourishing. Get a grip and talk about some real issues!
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    A politician using the word pansy is bigotry pure and simple. Just like a politican calling a black man boy.
    The Clinton's are playing to the southern racism and bigotry in NC.
  • jaclemons222 · 1 year ago
    Coming Undone,

    The boy comment was from a Republican representative at a Republican conference in Kentucky. That's Hillary's doing how?
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    i can only grow impatience. my garden is shaded.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Senator Dr. Tom Coburn is currently on MSNBC claiming Obama is trying to bring the "English" health care system to America. Doctor Coburn is a perfect example of why we don't need doctors in politics. Fox in charge of hen house much, good Doctor?
  • ClassAct · 1 year ago
    Out of a country of 300 million people, if the three current candidates for president is the best we can do, this country is in BAD SHAPE.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    And this is a gay ally?
    No.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    Mommy, that white lady was standing next to somebody who said a kind of bad word about somebody else. Make him stop.
  • RK in Kanada · 1 year ago
    Seriously...this is what passes as political debate? Are you so anti-Hilary that the word Pansy offends your sensibilities? I'm all for either Democrat., hell I'm for a naked mole rat over any more republicans, but this is getting ridiculous. This is exactly why the MSM keeps the bull sh%^ going . If you don't like Hillary that's fine...but to basically accuse her by association of being anti-gay is disingenuous at best.
  • devlzadvocate · 1 year ago
    RK in Kanada

    To be expected. Scan the list of subjects in the blog. Fully one-third are anti-Clinton, pro-Obama.

    The majority of bloggers are intolerant of any opinions but pro-Obama and are now scared because Rev. Wright is bursting their bubble and "O" is looking tired.

    They are getting quite anxious.
  • scooter in brooklyn · 1 year ago
    it was a disgusting display of homophobia. and mrs clinton should have called it that.
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    As far as the gas tax is concerned, you can't tell me the oil companies can't afford to PAY for the tax and THEN SOME when they are making BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of profit per quarter. There should be a cap on gas prices, and then have gas companies pay for the federal tax and gets some fairness back in the system. I'm sick of watching oil company ads about how much they are doing for our country while they rape and pillage the average American!
  • cowboyneok · 1 year ago
    Thank God Obama got in front of the Reverend Wright's latest comments. I was for Wright until the latest performance of his at the National Press Club. Obama, as usual, did the appropriate thing and divorced himself from Wright. Wright needs to stop making this all about him, and needs to stop with the divisive comments. There is a lot of underlying rage in what Wright says, and he needs to come to terms with that rage instead of allowing it to make a caricature out of Pastor Wright. Instead of moving the conversation forward, Wright is sending everything in the wrong direction. I'm glad Obama said enough is enough. Good for Obama, and I'm even more of a supporter of Obama now.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    The only bursted bubble is here is your sphincter and Hillary's pole.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Oh my singing troll!
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Yeah. Sorry, Polly.

    I need to take a walk.

    The Hillary/Bushco koolaid set is here and stinki8ng up the place.
  • joannahallmark · 1 year ago
    devlzadvocate

    Those in glass house shouldn't throw stones.
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    Hiilary:

    Losing Delegate count.
    Losing popular votes.
    Losing supers and contributors hourly.

    Anxious? Nope. Just waiting for the clock to finish ticking so I can watch Hillary take her last little entitled, pant-suited walk.
    Then her moment of glory, THE PERP WALK.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    cowboyneok [Moderator] 7 minutes ago
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    Hey there cowboyneok! YEs, he was grand this morning, wasn't he? I was stunned yesterday when I watched Wrights speech at the Press Club. His initial speech wasn't bad and actually taught things about Black history and was received well, it was during that blasted Q&A when his arrogance came out in full bloom.
  • SPatrick · 1 year ago
    "So using your logic, when people call Hillary a "bitch", they are calling her a female dog, and only when in heat, right? Gotcha! ;-)"

    As with everything, I consider the source. In this case you have chosen to stretch your argument beyond logic, which I find personally amusing. In this case I think the term pansy was just used as an example of the opposite of a strong fighter, a weak person.

    I mean, I consider Barack Obama to be a pansy, but I have no belief that he sucks cock.

    By *your* "logic" I would even go so far as to say that you are threatened that he compared Clinton to a strong man because of your sexist prejudices against women. I mean really, are you that threatened by a woman that other men openly declare as tough, strong and a fighter?
  • jaclemons222 · 1 year ago
    SPatrick,

    Barack wasn't the subject of the "pansy" comment. Rocky Balboa was.
  • Polly_Tics · 1 year ago
    Singing Troll
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    You ain't kidding! I think that Hillary.com sends out their minions to disturb various blogs that are not of her persuasion, and this is one of them.

    The scent reminds me of cheese, very old cheese from Germany or Austria, that has been left out on the counter all afternoon.
  • Coming Undone · 1 year ago
    devlzadvocate 1 minute ago,

    I stand for the beliefs that the Democratic party used to stand for , we used to stand up against bigotry, gay bashing, racism, Democrats smearing and throwing the kitchen sink against Democrats, but now Clinton's supporters don't seem to mind her using those tactics.
  • bs2669 · 1 year ago
    Pansy isn't a slur against gays, morons!. its a slur against whiny ass weaklings like the idiot who wrote this article.



    you dont think this is another example in a long line of political correctness gone crazy!?! have we lost our minds. what a bunch of pansies!
  • SINGING_TROLL · 1 year ago
    So, you're saying YOU are a pansy under your definition? i can see that...


    But it was the HOMOPHOBIC definition that got Hillary to LAUGHING.

    Idjit.
  • expat · 1 year ago
    I agree completely. I'm no fan of HRC but I think there are more legit things to hit her on.
  • bs2669 · 1 year ago
    Pansy is used all the time not referring to gay people. how do you know he was using it as a slur here? how do you know he wasnt using it to describe a whiny, overly sensitive man who happens to not be gay?
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Clinton is also going on O'Reilly tomorrow night. I wish just for once that her tactics would backfire on her because O'Reilly is anathema to a lot of Democrats.
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    So today I was able to denounce netroots on The Michael Signorile Radio Show. What I said was this tempest in a teapot has nothing to do with a bigotry, but everything to do with netroots trying to destroy Hillary and her supporters. Netroots is tearing the party aprt with its ridiculously vitriolic and biased "reporting".
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    the highest insult (for men) in our society is to be called either gay or girl.
    how tiring.
  • mjd04 · 1 year ago
    No Clinton defender here (I give my support and $ to Obama, and am coming to really dislike Hillary), but to me (and to most people, I think) the slang "pansy" means wimp (which I do not equate with being gay). So, he was basically saying that Hillary's a fighter, so tough she makes Rocky look like a wimp.

    In other words ... nothing to see here. Plenty (and I mean plenty!) of other things to criticize Hillary for ... this ain't one.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Mike Who? (I live in NC) Most of the time, Easley's in hiding.

    And yes, pansy was used all the time when I was younger as a slur against gays (30 or 40 years ago), and Easley is old enough to remember that. It wasn't an accident. I'm sure he'd be surprised to find out that NC is ranked #11 for same-sex couples, too. There's a large LGBT population here.
  • ClayPotts · 1 year ago
    If Pansy doesn't mean gay, then I guess the song "Im Gonna Be A Slut" by the group, Pansy Division, has nothing to do with being gay. Who knew? It all seemed real gay when they were performing at the Houston Gay Pride Festival. I only saw one man who was whiny and overly sensitive but that was due to the Viagra.
  • nicho · 1 year ago
    He should have just said "pussy" instead of "pansy." Gays wouldn't mind and the Hillbots think words don't mean much. So, they wouldn't have been offended.

    Can you imagine the shit storm from the Hillbot gang if someone said they were voting for Obama because he wasn't a pussy. Oh - my - god. There would be heads exploding all over the US.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "you did a great job destroying your party"-McCain to Hillary 1-21-09
  • ShirleyGoodnessanMercy · 1 year ago
    Seems like everyone has a different opinion on this one. I am gay, and I don't think of "pansy" as being an anti-gay slur. So I can cut them some slack.
  • dommyluc · 1 year ago
    Fuck you, Hillary, and your DOMA- and DADT-lovin’ ways. Obama may have had an ex-gay preacher on the stage, but he didn’t help enshrine anti-gay prejudices into law as the Clintons did. If you think Bill and Hill care about ANYBODY but themselves and their political careers, just stay away from the voting booth because you are too damned stupid to even comprehend the writing on the ballots before you. And how come no one makes a big deal out of her sticking with that sleazy husband of hers - you know, that moron who couldn’t keep his dick in his pants and helped lose the 2000 election for the Dems and helped lose the House and Senate Dem majorities while he was in the White House? If I were a married woman and I ever caught my man fucking around he would be GONE! And he’d be lucky if I didn’t pull a Lorena Bobbit on him. She even puts up with his infidelities for political gain - the poor, wronged woman. By playing this poor weak woman card she does a disservice to the feminist movement in this country. And her recent comments about how hard her life has been - bitch, please! I wish I could have a life that hard! Her silence at this endorsement ceremony speaks volumes about her. She knows EXACTLY what the word “pansy” is meant to convey. So fuck you, Hillary! Yeah, FUCK YOU!
  • Stevious · 1 year ago
    Oh, but Hillary has marched in Pride parades, doesn't that mean anything?
  • cmacden · 1 year ago
    Since I used to have guys call me "pansy" as they were kicking the sh*t out of me for being gay, I went and checked. From Merriam- Webster:

    pan·sy: usually disparaging : a weak or effeminate man or boy ; usually disparaging : a male homosexual

    So, those of you who are trying desperately to make this NOT about homophobia, you are wrong....
  • maildude39 · 1 year ago
    If you are gay, ( I am) and if on many occassions you have been hatefully called a pansy (among other things) for being gay, then you undoubtedly know that being called a pansy is definitely a homophobic slur! Some people just don't want to understand.
  • tbhull · 1 year ago
    I do not understand.
  • rugbyman · 1 year ago
    I am a gay man and tell me how "pansy" is a gay remark? I use it to denote someone who has no back bone, a wimp. how does that get confused with gay? I think someone is trying to turn all the Obama bad press around and give hillary some made-up bad press instead
  • Measured_Response · 1 year ago
    Some need to get a grip. my god.

    Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
    pansy
    Heart's"-ease`\, n. 1. Ease of heart; peace or tranquility of mind or feeling. --Shak.

    pansy

    noun
    2. a timid man or boy considered childish or unassertive

    Paraphrase: Hillary can make Rocky look like a pansy ( childish, unassertive). Notice "pansy" in the noun form.

    Paraphrase: Hillary can make Rocky look like a pansy ( Ease of heart; peace or tranquility of mind or feeling).

    We all know Rocky was a tough dude, in motion pictures for sure, so the supposed "GAY" slur can just as easily mean Rocky could be unassertive and have an eased heart, instead of the tough guy image.

    I suppose gays can read what ever they want in that one sentence but really, you make too much out of nothing.

    Where was the outrage about Rev. Wright? There was none on this blog for the last few days, not until today when Obama actually responded. I suppose loosely grey area knocks on Clinton was good filler material though.

    I now know why I read less and less of this blog, I was an avid reader at one time. Come on, lets get back to some thought provoking writing and lets leave the "pansy" posts for those pundits with an axe to grind.