AMERICAblog: Wash. Post: "Pope Benedict XVI is wrong."
Rob Mule
· 8 months ago
The worst mistake the Catholic Church has made in modern times, perhaps worse than Pius XII's concordat with the Nazis, was allowing this trifling martinet access to the Throne of St. Peter.
tigergrrldc
· 8 months ago
Dangerous is the right word for this man. A lot of African men already don't want to use condoms and this of course affects the African women who are "obligated" to have sex with their husbands or are even raped if they try to get the men to use condoms. This man making this statement only gives African men another reason not to use condoms. Despicable!
Gridlock
· 8 months ago
The Liberace of religion strikes again!
Rob Mule
· 8 months ago
Powdered latex vestments and a latex zuchetto would make an interesting statement.
Gridlock
· 8 months ago
it would also control those unsightly and unavoidable papal moobs.
no, nothing fabulous to see here at all, move along..
Older_Wiser
· 8 months ago
Good grief, will people ever get past religion dictating their sex lives and just use common sense? Religion simply reinforces the myth of straight male superiority anyway.
jcgraham77
· 8 months ago
Not to mention taking sex/relationship advice from a bunch of red caped men who have never had sex or "legal" intimate relationships.
JohnInTexas
· 8 months ago
except for that whole thing with young boys.
jcgraham77
· 8 months ago
that turned out to be untrue...didn't you hear? except with some priest in alaska with some indian boys i think.
Indigo
· 8 months ago
What was that slogan . . "Rum, Ruin and Romanism" . . . ? Some things do not change.
jcgraham77
· 8 months ago
The Darth Sith has struck again. Do you think it has anything to do with the Christian slant against the sons of Ham? When it comes to the Vatican NEVER go by the cover of the book. God doesn't even know what they are up to.
lost_nacf_gop
· 8 months ago
That's about right. Couldn't agree more. It looks even more depressing from inside the church - Pope Ratzinger in charge and the "5 non-negotiables" crowd yelling the loudest (and the angriest).
lutton
· 8 months ago
geez, it's so annoying the attitude the abstinence crowd takes. We might as well say we don't need law enforcemnt because people should just not break the law! Good God, these people are nuts.
And another point: what does Rush need Viagra for? Shouldn't he be celebate since he's not married? Yeah, I know , they make the rules; they don't have to follow them.
Rob Mule
· 8 months ago
Bennie and The Hets
j
· 8 months ago
the pope is wrong about everything except his choice of red prada pumps to match his white satin gown and scarlet sash
Hmm, didn't Jesus say that if your right hand causes you to sin you should cut it off? So, in this case... um ...
McE
· 8 months ago
As long as people believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities.
- Voltaire
QuakerLady
· 8 months ago
Benedict the XVIth Century is one of the main reasons I've returned to the Quakers. There are none so blind.................
AdmNaismith
· 8 months ago
'In a perfect world, people would abstain from having sex until they were married or would be monogamous in committed relationships.'
Really? In a 'perfect world'? Keep your cheap moralizing to yourself. My world has a broader view of sex than that.
The Post is wrong about sex; of course, the Pope is wronger about everything.
DemVet
· 8 months ago
Aids notwithstanding Ratzinger in Africa Condemns our rubber
GoBlue
· 8 months ago
John Paul II butted into the Terry Schiavo controversy with a statement that she should not be taken off her feeding tube because patients in persistent vegetative states sometimes regain consciousness. He was immediately criticized by doctors who said the pope was confusing PVS with comas. Medical literature is full of patients who came out of comas even after decades, but PVS is not the same thing as coma.
Humility is a virtue. Unless the pope is a medical doctor, he should humbly refrain from practicing medicine.
i420
· 8 months ago
The Roman Catholic Church is dopey...foolish...and supremely arrogant. And perhaps the pope should hang from a rope. However...WaPo is more wrong than he. The f*ktard pope is correct, pass out condoms all the live long day to every sexually active woman and man on the planet...AIDS will still spread.
The US CDC notes that condoms are effective in the prevention of AIDS, but concludes... "It should be noted that condom use cannot provide absolute protection against HIV. The surest way to avoid transmission of HIV is to abstain from sexual intercourse or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested and you know is uninfected."
As I've stated previously...the pope seems to be of the mind that people with AIDS, whom are sexually active, use condoms as a means to prevent spreading it to their partner. While the person may believe they are having safe sex, they are in reality, having reckless sex. One false move, one unintended slip, and the latex barrier between two people becomes utterly useless. In that regard, condoms and people's lackadaisical use of them, is indeed, wholly counterproductive to the fight against AIDS.
I dread the prospect of AIDS unexpectedly mutating into a virus that can survive long enough outside a host body to become airborne. While unlikely at this time, it is by no means a impossibility. And due to the overwhelming evidence that behavior modification is highly temporary, coupled with that condoms are not at all foolproof...how much longer do people have to suffer the threat of inadvertent infection of AIDS before society gets real about it and enacts quarantine measures for sake, to once and for all, put a stop to the spread of "a disease that has no cure." ?
Gridlock
· 8 months ago
yeah, except how many studies disprove what you just said.
With or without condoms, people will fuck. That's human nature. Condoms will not make you fuck any more than the next person who doesn't have any. That's been proven.
Fucking WITH condoms will reduce transmission somewhere around 90%. Fucking without them reduces transmission by... well 0%.
Your solution would see people what.. locked up in concentration camps?
LOL
get real.
i420
· 8 months ago
Who said anything about camps? We're a semi-compassionate nation. Isolation with walls and razor wires is not a option. Now, get your head out of Orwell's rear and envision a sprawling community of infected, though, productive and thriving, citizens working alongside researchers until a cure is realized. For all te shortsighted know...it could become the global model of self-sufficiency.
Rob Mule
· 8 months ago
Sounds like i420's been drinking in an Irish bar! (wink, wink!)
Gridlock
· 8 months ago
a gilded cage is still a prison, and is more than one strain of HIV out there. Throwing a bunch of infected people into a small location seems like the best idea if you really want to start recombinant mutation experiments....
*rubs temples*
The stupid, it burns!
derrickhoyle
· 8 months ago
It's especially dangerous given that the people in Africa are largely uneducated. Much of the population believes that witches exist and cast evil spells on them, or that females should be circumcised so they have no lust. So a world leader telling them that condoms make the AIDS problem worse is downright wicked.
ggb
· 8 months ago
Joe, this Pope is so far out of touch with reality, it's pathetic. This has nothing to do with morals or waiting until you are married and all that other crap, this is a disease that is rampant in countries where people are so poor and have so little, with little or no education, that they really have nothing better to do than have sex. Geez, I am so busy with my kids, my family, my hobbies, my cleaning, my laundry, my volunteering, I am so flippin' tired at the end of the day, sex could never enter the picture!!! However, these people live in huts or tents, maybe they have dirt floors to sweep out, not enough food to eat, and what do they fill their time with? This is human nature and these people have nothing and he expects them to practice abstinence - give me strength. Bush and this Pope need to be driven somewhere very, very, far away where we will never hear their voices again.
brb915
· 8 months ago
..............ranks right up there with his saying something to the effect that 'We cannot bring closure to the priest sex abuse cases by putting the offending priests in jail"...................."Jesus wept." John 11:35
janiceinthemountains
· 8 months ago
This comment by the Pope is very disappointing. Catholics deserve so much better. This detracts dramatically from his standing as a global leader. Hopefully the Vatican will see the damage he has done.
Rog
· 8 months ago
He is the worst Pope in modern times. The mans is a joke.
woodroad34
· 8 months ago
This is the best God has to offer? Once again proving the Poop is Fallible.
RitornaVincitor
· 8 months ago
I'm both sorry and glad the Pope was stupid enough to once again push the Church's objection to the use of condoms under any circumstances, even to save lives. I'm glad because the Church is idiotic on such a vast array of issues, most of which are not so obvious. This issue makes it so much easier for people to see how out of touch the Church truly is with the real world. But I'm sorry for all those unfortunate people who, through naivete or religious faithfulness will become infected with this horrible virus as a result of the Church's arrogant belief that it has a direct connection to truth.
blueoysterjoe
· 8 months ago
And the Catholic Church continues its long and steady march into obscurity. It may take 200 years, but you can't support policies that lead to the deaths of entire populations and expect to remain salient. History is littered with the corpses of dictators that thought that mass extermination is an acceptable way to pursue ideology.
maudgonne
· 8 months ago
Officials will gather in Bonn later this month to continue talks on a new global climate treaty, which campaigners have called to be signed at a UN meeting in Copenhagen in December. Hansen warned that the new treaty is "guaranteed to fail" to bring down emissions. Hansen said: "What's being talked about for Copenhagen is a strenghening of Kyoto [protocol] approach, a cap and trade with offsets and escape hatches which will be gauranteed to fail in terms of getting the required rapid reduction in emissions. They talk about goals which sound impressive, but when you see the actions are such that it will be impossible to reach those goals, then I can understand the informed public getting frustrated." He said he was growing "concerned" over the stance taken by the new US adminstration on global warming. "It's not clear what their intentions are yet, but if they are going to support cap and trade then unfortunately I think that will be another case of greenwash. It's going to take stronger action than that." http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/mar/18/n...
Milli
· 8 months ago
Why does the Pope even assume he has a say in this? Are the people he wants to prevent from using condoms even Catholic? Are they technically his "flock". If not, he just shut the hell up.
gantrants
· 8 months ago
I saw this video today that shows how different news outlets are reporting the Pope Benedict story. It’s interesting to see the difference in perspectives…
In a perfect we wouldn't need condoms. So not living in a perfect world we need to do what would be nearest to perfection. Since we are talking about the value of Human Life. The nearest to perfect would be to wear the condom and save the world from this horrible scourge.
All Comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNFuDFNsB-c&feat...
And two choice alterboy types:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAnAmTtNMCk
And another point: what does Rush need Viagra for? Shouldn't he be celebate since he's not married? Yeah, I know , they make the rules; they don't have to follow them.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/HIVAIDS/ss/events...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-618528...
- Voltaire
Really? In a 'perfect world'? Keep your cheap moralizing to yourself. My world has a broader view of sex than that.
The Post is wrong about sex; of course, the Pope is wronger about everything.
Ratzinger in Africa
Condemns our rubber
Humility is a virtue. Unless the pope is a medical doctor, he should humbly refrain from practicing medicine.
The US CDC notes that condoms are effective in the prevention of AIDS, but concludes... "It should be noted that condom use cannot provide absolute protection against HIV. The surest way to avoid transmission of HIV is to abstain from sexual intercourse or to be in a long-term mutually monogamous relationship with a partner who has been tested and you know is uninfected."
As I've stated previously...the pope seems to be of the mind that people with AIDS, whom are sexually active, use condoms as a means to prevent spreading it to their partner. While the person may believe they are having safe sex, they are in reality, having reckless sex. One false move, one unintended slip, and the latex barrier between two people becomes utterly useless. In that regard, condoms and people's lackadaisical use of them, is indeed, wholly counterproductive to the fight against AIDS.
I dread the prospect of AIDS unexpectedly mutating into a virus that can survive long enough outside a host body to become airborne. While unlikely at this time, it is by no means a impossibility. And due to the overwhelming evidence that behavior modification is highly temporary, coupled with that condoms are not at all foolproof...how much longer do people have to suffer the threat of inadvertent infection of AIDS before society gets real about it and enacts quarantine measures for sake, to once and for all, put a stop to the spread of "a disease that has no cure." ?
With or without condoms, people will fuck. That's human nature. Condoms will not make you fuck any more than the next person who doesn't have any. That's been proven.
Fucking WITH condoms will reduce transmission somewhere around 90%. Fucking without them reduces transmission by... well 0%.
Your solution would see people what.. locked up in concentration camps?
LOL
get real.
*rubs temples*
The stupid, it burns!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/mar/18/n...
http://www.newsy.com/videos/pope_s_condom_remar...