AMERICAblog: Washington Post calls being gay a "lifestyle choice"
DavidinChelseaMA
· 1 year ago
Sure, being gay is a lifestyle choice just like being a particular height is a lifestyle choice.
gaiilonfong
· 1 year ago
I remember making that lifestyle chice at 4 yrs old.....Hmmm
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
wow! you were young... I didn't choose until I was 10... well, not sure if it was a choice, just heard the definition of 'gay' and knew that was me.
you're right... probably more like 5 years old or so.
gaiilonfong
· 1 year ago
Surprise...SURPRISE...who wudda thunk these bigoted THUGS would do such a thang?
coolcatdaddy
· 1 year ago
Perhaps having a desire to "serve George W. Bush" is a "lifestyle choice"?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Mybe that's "code" on the east coast for "gay". It doesn't mean that in flyover country, that I'm aware of.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
Sloppy journalism would be bad grammar or confusing Petraeus with the Joint Chiefs Chairman. This mistake is down there in the brain stem of someone they hired to write news. and then edit it. who are these people and what is their home planet?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
I think you've got real "thin skin". Lifestyle choices down here means drug addiction, highschool dropouts, choosing not to work, having babies out of wedlock, etc. Now, I have heard people use the term "alternative lifestyle" to indicate homosexuality.
Steve_in_CNJ
· 1 year ago
Huh?
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
Egg-fukin-xactly - one should not pay to much attention to BUSHBOY. His brain is not right. He made that choice.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
And, you made a choice when you chose to post:
Should I post as a "hillbilly inbred cretin", or as (somehow) a person of substance?
Good Choice!
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
Living alone, shacking up or being married is a lifestyle choice, not sexual orientation.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
OK, O&W, I'll owe you a round :-)
mista
· 1 year ago
Apparently the article has been updated. Removing "lifestyle choices" from the headline, and changing its usage in the article to say "Christian lifestyle choices."
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
Again, come on. This is sloppy journalism and offensive. ---
John, does it ever feel like you're spitting in the wind? just talking about the MSM??
I mean... this IS the way they operate. It isn't sloppy journalism, its JOURNALISM as defined by our post-chimpy culture.
this is what passes as journalism now... which is why I stick to The Daily Show and comic books... less frustrating, more laughs.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Aside from the high per capita incidence of 'mos in DC, the city is notoriously homophobic. Perhaps the centuries old annual influx of buxom rural virgins to the federally protected alpha male preserve plays some part in this preference for the (ahem!) traditional.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
The "buxom rural virgin influx"? Maybe DC should be re-evaluated as a tourist destination..... Nicely described, BTW..
cowboyneok
· 1 year ago
Its not sloppy journalism. Sloppy journalism implies a mistake. This is a conservative newspaper's attempt to continue to spread the lie sexual orientation is some kind of "radical choice." If choice is implied then Monica Goodling can't be blamed for discriminating against gays because they made an "offensive choice" according to innocent Monica "Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm" Goodling. You see, poor Christian Monica can't be blamed for breaking the law. She did it because the evil homahsexshuls made the choice to be evil and sinful! There are laws outlined in our constitution and then their are God's laws defined and executed only by those who happen to go to law school at Regent University. Lets all vote for John McCain and get him to appoint Regent University judges, and maybe even a Supreme Court judge. HOORAY! (ANGRY SNARK)
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Yeah, cowboy, it's always about you; the perennial victim..
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
we're ALL victims (as Americans that is), you just haven't been paying attention.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Oooh the corporate media boobys have been honking all day and pissing all over Oliver Stone's "W." movie...(sputter, sputter!!!) I guess it beats comtemplating Ted Stevens guest starring on "Oz".
Soundboy_jeff_meanie
· 1 year ago
I didn't know Oliver Stone did cartoons.
dclenden
· 1 year ago
The online version is different or was changed. I saw Christian lifestyle choice and did not see lifestyle choices which has different meaning.
OlderAndWiser
· 1 year ago
What's a "christian lifestyle choice" anyway? Do christian beliefs really make much difference in the way people live their lives? It sure didn't in Monica's case.
hawkseye
· 1 year ago
I think it's when you keep your legs crossed (that's how they would put it) until you are married in a Christian Church by a Christian minister.
ndtovent
· 1 year ago
Well I have the print edition from this morning, and it most definitely still says "lifestyle choices."
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Being gay is obviously not a lifestyle choice. I suppose choosing to live as you are as an out gay person, and not lie and hide could be considered a lifestyle choice. Religion is definitely a lifestyle choice; a constitutionally protected one at that. I just want equal rights.
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Isn't "equal" and "gay" an oxymoron?
scottinsf
· 1 year ago
Isn't "busboy" just a moron?
chowderSF
· 1 year ago
No, but 'go' and 'away' are perfect for you, huh?
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
The phrase “Lifestyle choices” is left-over Reagen-era double-speak for “Fags Cause AIDS.” It still carries negative connotations, even though the words themselves are benign – maybe even positive.
[I wish George Carlin were still around to riff on this, like,
“‘Lifestyle.’ It’s a Life! With Style! I have a Style! And a Life! Wow! I must have My Own Unique, Personal Lifestyle! And ‘Choices’! Who doesn’t love Choices?! The freedom for each of us to decide which Choice we want to choose! According to Our Own Personal Style!
“But there are some people, The People of No Style, who believe that there are Just Too Many Choices, and they survive by trying to Prevent Stylish People from Adopting Lives that are, to The People of No Style, Not What I Would Choose For My Life If I Had One. The exact wording on your November ballot may differ.
“But when you put the two words together, “Lifestyle Choices”, they become tainted and toxic, and the heads of The People of No Style explode into a psychotic (yet oddly vivid and riveting), image of two well-built, hairy men butt-fucking bare-back in a bathhouse.”]
I trust the Log Cabinettes will be posting their tersely-worded press release shortly...
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Wouldn't "different, but equal" sound better to the general populace?
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
how come you're always here as the gay expert?
Busboy
· 1 year ago
Always remember that an "ex-spurt" is a slow "drip". I'm really here because I enjoy the conversation. And, tls, you are a good wit.... :-)
IAmATVJunkie
· 1 year ago
I didn't read the original article. Hell, I don't even know if there were changes to the article made, since I've only seen the headline of the original, but this doesn't sound like the slight you're all painting.
Sounds to me like "conservative values and lifestyle choices" are attributed here to the people who were hired, not the ones who were denied employment.
And being Christian or antigay or both is a lifestyle choice.
And of course being gay still not a choice. Not for me, anyway.
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
"...conservative values and lifestyle choices" are attributed here to the people who were hired, not the ones who were denied employment."
They are one and the same. They are called "Applicants."
IAmATVJunkie
· 1 year ago
I suggest you read it again. I'm not discussing policy in my comment, I'm discussing sentence structure.
SDBear
· 1 year ago
Not only is this a quaint - and not in a good way - way of referring to gay people, it's also not in keeping with the AP Style Guide, the manual that most newspaper use to ensure that the language they use in their reporting is unbiased.
"gay: Used to describe men and women attracted to the same sex, though lesbian is the more common term for women. Preferred over homosexual except in clinical contexts or references to sexual activity.
Include sexual orientation only when it is pertinent to a story, and avoid references to "sexual preference" or to a gay or alternative "lifestyle."
So not only was this a conscious decision by the reporter, the copy desk also let it get by. That doesn't happen by accident. (The copy desk, not reporters, generally write the headlines as well.)
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
Interesting, SDBear. If Carrie Johnson is not fired by 10:00 am tomorrow, then 'her opinion' will have become 'official company policy.'
ndtovent
· 1 year ago
I've seen this "lifestyle choice" quote more and more in the wapo over the last 2 years than i have in the previous 20 i've been reading it. I don't keep up with who's who in the newspaper biz, but obviously, they've hired more reichwing writers and editor's lately.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
John, i think the article has been changed...now it refers to "Christian lifestyle choices"
wtf?
donotmakemecomedownthere
· 1 year ago
There is no such expression as "Christian Lifestyle Choices."
She, or someone on her behalf, is trying to cover her tracks/ass.
Õ¿Õ
· 1 year ago
Are you gay?
Ben Dover
· 1 year ago
Lifestyle choice? All I can remember is that my GI Joes spent a lot of time camping with their friend Ken.
A lot of time camping...
Indigo
· 1 year ago
"Lifestyle" was the fashionably liberal way to say "it" back in the early 1970s. I guess that would represent some progress since, in the 1970s themselves, the WaPo would have said "sodomites."
Now isn't that a pretty dish To set before the king?
moreleesafer
· 1 year ago
I made a lifestyle decision to be a black woman. You know because i wanted to earn 74 cents for every dollar a white man earns.
when I saw the headline i was thinking it was one of those fundie rags....WOW the WA Post just took a giant step back.
interlude
· 1 year ago
i agree with cowboyneok (as i usually do) it would be wonderful if the Nation's Capitol had a progressive newspaper, or at least one that wasn't conservative.
jr
· 1 year ago
"run an ad with us"-Washington Post to Exodus International
cwzilla
· 1 year ago
WoW it was my choice to be a strait white male>>> well I better pat myself on tha back then..actually it was my choice to be a long haired pot smokein liberal hippy freak that thinks everyone should have a fair shot in life and not just for the wealthy or powerful or politically connected damm me and my choices bill oliely might call me bad names
you're right... probably more like 5 years old or so.
Should I post as a "hillbilly inbred cretin", or as (somehow) a person of substance?
Good Choice!
---
John, does it ever feel like you're spitting in the wind? just talking about the MSM??
I mean... this IS the way they operate. It isn't sloppy journalism, its JOURNALISM as defined by our post-chimpy culture.
this is what passes as journalism now... which is why I stick to The Daily Show and comic books... less frustrating, more laughs.
[I wish George Carlin were still around to riff on this, like,
“‘Lifestyle.’ It’s a Life! With Style! I have a Style! And a Life! Wow! I must have My Own Unique, Personal Lifestyle! And ‘Choices’! Who doesn’t love Choices?! The freedom for each of us to decide which Choice we want to choose! According to Our Own Personal Style!
“But there are some people, The People of No Style, who believe that there are Just Too Many Choices, and they survive by trying to Prevent Stylish People from Adopting Lives that are, to The People of No Style, Not What I Would Choose For My Life If I Had One. The exact wording on your November ballot may differ.
“But when you put the two words together, “Lifestyle Choices”, they become tainted and toxic, and the heads of The People of No Style explode into a psychotic (yet oddly vivid and riveting), image of two well-built, hairy men butt-fucking bare-back in a bathhouse.”]
I trust the Log Cabinettes will be posting their tersely-worded press release shortly...
Sounds to me like "conservative values and lifestyle choices" are attributed here to the people who were hired, not the ones who were denied employment.
And being Christian or antigay or both is a lifestyle choice.
And of course being gay still not a choice. Not for me, anyway.
They are one and the same. They are called "Applicants."
"gay: Used to describe men and women attracted to the same sex, though lesbian is the more common term for women. Preferred over homosexual except in clinical contexts or references to sexual activity.
Include sexual orientation only when it is pertinent to a story, and avoid references to "sexual preference" or to a gay or alternative "lifestyle."
So not only was this a conscious decision by the reporter, the copy desk also let it get by. That doesn't happen by accident. (The copy desk, not reporters, generally write the headlines as well.)
wtf?
She, or someone on her behalf, is trying to cover her tracks/ass.
A lot of time camping...
Now isn't that a pretty dish
To set before the king?
You know because i wanted to earn 74 cents for every dollar a white man earns.
when I saw the headline i was thinking it was one of those fundie rags....WOW the WA Post just took a giant step back.
it would be wonderful if the Nation's Capitol had a progressive newspaper, or at least one that wasn't conservative.