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Someone figured this out.
Random thoughts...
Still, I am stupified by these Hillary suporters that are going for McCain. They now are clearly just racists. Hillary has said to vote for Obama while McCain is clearly the opposite candidate for what we hold true to the Dem party. The only other variable is his race.
Arguably one or the other is the more significant achievement. Women are killed in other nations for honor killings but in this nation Blacks are still gunned down in the streets by cops for the crime of walking while Black or even breathing while Black. Took from the Civil War until now to have a legitimate major party black candidate while it is something less, maybe 90 years, to have a woman make a serious run. Of course, remains to be seen if we do see a woman actually run representing the Democratic Party. Darn sure the Repuglicans won't do it. Also remains to be seen whether Obama can overcome the massive bigotry in this nation. Obama won, but he won on his own merits, he didn’t cheat her out of it. She lost. I think she lost on her vile, hateful, racist campaign against Obama. Obama also strategized and outsmarted her. She had no entitlement to be the candidate.
Also have to say that the Clintons’ arrogance about being entitled is so different from 1992 when the Clintons were stunned and unprepared when they won. Most of the Democratic party wasn’t even prepared to accept or help the new Clinton administration and many refused appointments. Was a serious question whether we could even get anyone to accept the appointments to Secretary of State, and Attorney General. In addition, it took massive, massive critcism that Bill was such a chauvinist ass for not appointing more women before he got the message and placed a few token women in his administration. And then was obvious that he was too chauvinist to work closely with a woman for his press secretary. Is there any question that he is still a womanizer and still cheating on Hillary, of course, with her knowledge and consent? Republican criticisms of the Clintons are absurd, that he murdered Vincent Foster, and much other bullshit. But they are right in one thing, the Clintons are, were and will always be pond scum, who would have fit better among the double-taling Republicans.
She could have told us why we never got those mangoes....yet Bush got her vote.
I notice here in Houston there's a lot of showing how silly the dems are. Showing the goofy dancing (every day), showing how Hillary's aids held up her pant suits to figure out which color worked with the back drop...just goofy stuff.
Joe sez: "I hate to be complaining about things like this -- it distracts from the work at hand, which is defeating John McCain."
If so, Joe, the message has changed. Last time around the work at hand was to protect the Establisment DNC System's income and hand the ruination of government back to the Republicans. I fear that in the deep dark dungeon of backstage skullduggery the message hasn't changed.
As for those assassins arrested on Monday, Hillary is a far greater danger to Obama than those incompetent fools.
Hillary's task was to speak to her petulant supporters who are looking to either actively cast a McCain ballot or vote for him through their non-participation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHZHuyVeio
I think it's a combo of the media trying to find the few upset Clinton supporters and plants or people not being truthful about their affiliation...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Hillary+kn...
I was listening to Bill Press this morning and callers calling in said they were on the fence and that her speech gave them a reality check. I think she knocked it out of the park, it did the trick.
Now hopefully you will see a tidal shift in the polls.
Kudos to Hillary, she nailed it.
The polls are Obama's fault, not Hillary's! I am a life-long Democrat and I now find that for the first time I will be compelled to vote Republican. Get as angry as you want, but direct that anger where it belongs - at Obama and the DNC.
NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN
and I'm a life member of the NAACP and rallied for defense of "The Chicago
Seven" . . . I've have paid my dues (unlike you). So don't suppose that you
have earned the right to talk about "real" anything. Obama isn't qualified
- PERIOD. Hillary Clinton was - PERIOD. Anyone who blindly follows the
pack is the "traitor". You are one of the "true believers" . . . someone
who will do as they are told and NEVER think for themselves. Ask yourself
"What has Obama accomplished during his term as an elected public servant?"
When you finally realize that the answer is NOTHING, perhaps you will have a
growth experience.
Run along, now, troll, I'm sure there's a Bill Kristol column, somewhere, that you should be dissecting for talking points.
- PERIOD. Hillary Clinton was - PERIOD.
As a Hillary supporter, I actually agree with the above sentiment to a degree. I also believe that Obama did crib a lot of his platform from Hillary. I never hated him, just liked her better. I really was sad when she didn't get the nomination.
BUT the big caveat is that it doesn't matter now - I am certainly not voting for McCain for gods sake! To do so would go against everything I stand for so of course I am voting for Obama. Any Hillary supporter that doesn't is insane. Hell I am not even a Democrat! It's all beside the point. Elections are always about the lesser of two evils so for 2008 I say DEMOCRAT OR BUST! We could all stand to learn something from the Republicans about loyalty. Vote Obama or just stay home because voting for McCain would be utterly disgraceful.
disaster! From my perspective Bush and Carter have been the two worst
presidents of my lifetime (even worse than Nixon). However, McCain has
crossed party lines time and again. He does have a record of accomplishment
(even thought I have not like all of his positions).
I very passionately wanted Hillary for President. I do not believe that
those of us who do not support Barack Obama are insane. I do not think you
are insane for supporting him. But, his party affiliation is not sufficient
to get my vote. I am a Democrat and I cannot support an unqualified
candidate.
Best regards -
bgd
The Democratic party is unity. The Democrat party is the sum of all "me's" turning into "we".
AND PS: I am so sick of hearing, especially after Hillarys wonderful speech, that you can't quite put your finger on it, or the old Obama has not really said anything that convinced me crap, that you are plain and simple a racist bigot. These two wonderful candidates stand toe to toe. Now get off this site before someone drops a house on you.
many of us will not support Obama. I'm glad you think you know so much
about me, my politics and my support of PUMA. When Obama looses, it will
largely be because of supporters like you who are driving people like me to
vote for McCain.
Best of luck . . . please don't bother to respond. Instead, go out and
convince someone else why Hillary Clinton is our only hope.
If anything, you are playing into the hands of the Republicans. The
Democratic Party was built on hard work and achievement, not anger and
rhetoric. If the party is to heal in 2012, Obama has to take responsibility
for the fact that he just isn't reaching a large number of his own party
members.
Best wishes,
bgd
You have zero logic in your argument, but then again, I don't believe you are actually a democrat.
from my first campaign. Luckily, I also had a quality candidate as my hero.
My logic is the same that attracted me to JFK (who I met) . . .
QUALIFICATION TO HOLD THE OFFICE. You my not like my decision, but calling
me names, or impugning me isn't going to change a thing. I really do wish
Obama every success . . . but, he has not earned my vote.
Bill Clinton's greatness tonight is going to depend on how well he teaches these fighters how to attack and win against McCain. We all know who Bill is. What we still don't know is how to keep the focus strategic, and use McCain's and the GOP's weaknesses against them. They have no platform, no policies, no competence to govern. What they have is the ability to zero in on an opponent's weak spots and pummel them to death.
The reason I'm glad Obama won the nomination is not because I don't love Hillary, and not because I don't repect the hell out of Bill Clinton. They will always be powerhouses, no matter how nuts Bill can be at times.
The reason I backed Obama is because I like the way he fights. He does not lose his cool when he fights. McCain does.
If we can get a whole army of democrats out there whose single mission and purpose is only to piss off McCain, again and again and again, we can show the country not just what his own weaknesses are, but expose the central flaw in the GOP. They have become a party of reactive, emotional, hysterical, passive aggressive fools, and want a leader they can crown as the nastiest bitch of all.
Let's expose that, not simply by stating it, but by triggering behavior to help the truth of those colors shine through.
It's not enough for a smart football team to play well. It has to take advantage of the other teams' weakness, and make them play badly. Let's see whether the democrats coaches are smart enough to lay out the strategy, demonstrate some moves, and teach the team how to do this so consistently that they will be able to score points on every move.
To the PUMA's, now you can see what it was like to vote for Nader.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/26/kucini...
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/8/2...
Let me see if I got this correct. Hillary and Joe Biden have both endorsed John McCain as Commander in Chief. They both said Obama was not ready to be Commander in chief. Hillary gives a speech that went over 9 minutes of her allotted time and never once said that Obama was qualified to be Commander in Chief and this was a great speech. No wonder we can’t win the office of President.
Until Hillary, Bill, Biden and any other democrat that said about Obama is not being ready to be Commander in Chief refutes that charge, their speech is nothing more than a waste of time. The only ones who gave a prime time speech that supports Obama were his wife and Ted Kennedy. Everyone else speech just served their own interest. Governor Rendell, the Clintons and Biden need to stand before that convention and the Nation and say Barack Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief. This is the third day of the convention and outside of Teddy Kennedy no other Political figure has come to the stage to say that.
If by tomorrow morning those who made that allegation of Obama not being ready to be Commander in Chief have to refuted what they said, they would have given McCain all the ammunition he needs to bury Obama and if Obama and his people can’t see that then Obama does not deserve to be President.
If Joe Biden and/or Bill Clinton do not say unequivocally say that Barack Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief, Obama will drop at least 3 points in the polls at the end of this convention.
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You can try to dismiss the allegations that Hillary supporters made as being just primary rhetoric, but when you say that our party nominee is not ready to be Commander in Chief and the other party nominee is ready to be Commander in Chief and then don’t retract it in your prime time speech; you have just given the nominee from the other party a powerful weapon. I am just an economics professor and if I can see that this was a major omission from her speech and the owners of this blog, who are supposed to be political experts, can’t see this was a major omission, and then I question their qualifications to be or have ever been political consultants or experts.
If Joe Biden and/or Bill Clinton do not say unequivocally say that Barack Obama is ready to be Commander in Chief, Obama will drop at least 3 points in the polls at the end of this convention.
You're right. Obama has never been Commander in Chief before. so what. Neither had Hillary. Neither has McBush.
married a billionairess? been a POW? Lived 72 years?
his bellicose old world thinking is that military force and US imperialism are the answers to every problem. that is simply no longer feasible in this world.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/heres-...
If the tax is done properly (where a profit margin above a certain amount will all be taxed away) could be a tool to bring oil process down. A Better solution would be to treat the oil dependency as the number one threat to our national security and make a mandate that we will use all of our resources (intellect, money, innovations) to be totally independent of foreign oil in the next 2 years.
Both my wife and I make over $250,000 a year. Like most people in our income bracket we don’t own a business we are professional people so we don’t create jobs and like others who are in our income bracket we save close to 50% of our income. With President Bush tax cuts my disposable income increased about 3%. I did not spend that 3%, I increased my savings by that 3%. Keep in mind that only 10% of the country makes over $250,000 a year.
If my secretary, who makes $45,000, a year would get a 3% increase due to the tax plan that Barack Obama proposes then my disposable income would decrease by 3% while her disposable income would increase by 3%. I would still maintain my same level of spending; I probably would just save a little less. She and the rest of the middle class are going to spend that 3% increase in disposable income which will cause business to sell more, which will cause business to need more inventories, which would create jobs to make the items to fill the inventories. I will not decrease my spending because like most of the people in my income bracket 3% decrease in our income will not change our spending level.
You're pretty much a political animal to follow and support any candidate that passionately. Unless you're insane (and yeah, there's probably a couple of those) why would you abandon all your political principles? It's not even a consideration to vote for a W Bush clone. To do so would be endorsement and continuation of the worst presidency in US history.
Although I'm a Republican who supported every Republican presidential nominee from 1960 through 2004, I supported Hillary this year. While disappointed in her narrow loss, I now support Barack Obama and recently contributed money (twice) to his campaign.
But I do think Hillary's speech was one of the best given at conventions in recent years and certainly the best she's ever given..