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AMERICAblog: Wednesday Morning Open Thread

  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Here is sarah addressing this years AIP CONVENTION.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9LFIKB26N0&feat...

    Here the head of AIP talks about Palin being a member for a number of years. and mentions all kinds of problems with her ethics.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE8A3lsydzQ&feat...

    Tell NYT not to recant her membership the head of the party says so clearly. someone needs to interview this guy
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    I think the most damning evidence of her felicitation to the AIP is her behavior after her water broke during her recent pregnancy.

    The AIP wants to succeed from the Union. As a result they don't cotton to transplants from other states, who obviously would most likely value their U.S. citizenship. Thus AIP would see native Alaskan birth as important indicator of ones position on that issue.

    Palin rushed back to Alaska to ensure that her kid would be a native Alaskan. As her husband said, paraphrased "Fish Pickers don't come from Texas".

    The irony is that Alaska appears to be Texas on steroids. Bigger space, more sparcely populated, more dependent upon oil, with a belief that their better than the Union they are joined to. Palin, then is Bush on steroids. And Alaska is starting to appear to be 7/10 of the way toward an aryan nation.

    As an independent state, a former colony, next door to mother Russia, with lots of petroleum interest, I wonder just how long Alaska would truly be independent.
  • alaskan · 1 year ago
    AIP is a joke party for a few old geezers who are unhappy about everything. They usually get 0% or 1 % in an election - if they have a candidate. No one really pays attention to them.
    The real reason she stayed to make a speech and then took two flights home was that you can't deliver a baby in Texas when it's already being born in Alaska. Although if anyone could have pulled that off, it would be her.

    Very few Alaskans would fit your caricature.

    This nomination is a huge embarrassment to Alaskans
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Yeah, I thought I read last night that someone was going to retract their story about this? Seems pretty clear to me...
  • bkmn · 1 year ago
    I don't expect to see Palin in any open situations with the press any time in the near future. They are most likely feeding her every line that will come out of her mouth.
  • tofubo · 1 year ago
    now recovering alcoholics can have a drinking game at a bar too

    take a shot every time you see a minority @ the rnc convention

    don't worry, you'll go home sober
  • meemers · 1 year ago
    The public doesn't seem to be much interested in the convention.

    What did you think of the GOP convention's Tuesday night program?
    Thumbs up 25% 11350
    Thumbs down 30% 13672
    Didn't watch 45% 20335
    Total Votes: 45357
    http://www.cnn.com/
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    Ha, hilarious, 74% haven't seen or give it thumbs down. Can't wait to hear when this is over that is the lowest rated convention ever...
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Woke up to hear Scarborough venting against the "left", saying that they, and the website Dailykos are lying and angry people. Hmm...I guess Limbaugh, Hannity, Malkin, Coulter and other rightwingers are honest and not angry at all!!!
    How they have embraced Palin, and standing up to her, is obvious in the love fest that goes on. They conveniently forget that the news about her suspicious pregnancy came from Alaska. They keep blaming the "left" for making this story up!!!
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    Crybaby Joe doesn't like to be corrected. Those clips of Olbermann smacking him down are priceless! Now we have Rachel too...

    GOPers can dish it out, but they can't take it.
  • AnalyticalLiberal · 1 year ago
    Why should the CCCP (Compliant Complicit Corporate Press) -- and the Rethugs for that matter -- stop treating us like fools now? It has worked so well for them since AT LEAST 1992 when they went batshit crazy over the Clintons.

    Metaphorically speaking, and ONLY as an analogy, the Rethugs and the CCCP are like the undead... they only way to be rid of them is to stab them with a wooden stake through their heartless chests. That "wooden stake" is called the netroots. The death of this hideous hatred for humanity is coming... soon!
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Good morning!

    Painful indeed. But wait! There's more . . .
    ;-)
  • lynchie · 1 year ago
    Just to give you some perspective there are 75 churches within the city limits of Wasilla, Alaska with a population of 8700

    http://yellowpages.superpages.com/listings.jsp?...

    I know there are surrounding communities but when you do that search on the yellow pages it shows 35 pages with 45 on each page something doesn't smell right in Wasilla
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    What's the one thing that's more exciting than having sex with the Governor's daughter?
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    I've decided...I will hereafter refer to McCain as God's Little Maverick, among other things.

    I now have real life experience of how "Information is power'. If not for the internet tubes and bloggers and everyday people who get to the truth, we'd be dead. We're probably going to have to fight for our internets, especially if God's Little Maverick steals this election.
  • meemers · 1 year ago
    From: DR. Jacqueline Taylor Basker
    Date: Sept. 2, 2008 – 0238GMT
    Subject: Sarah Palin – From Someone Who Knows Her

    As an Alaskan, I am writing to give you some information on Sarah Palin, Senator McCain's choice for VP. As an Alaska voter who is a regular visitor/shopper in Wasilla, I know more than most of you about her and, frankly, I am horrified that he picked her.

    The most accurate description of her is red neck. Her husband works in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay and races snow mobiles. She is a life time member of the NRA and has worked tirelessly to allow indiscriminate hunting of wildlife in Alaska, particularly wolves and bears. She has spent millions of Alaska state dollars on aerial hunting of these predators from helicopters and airplanes, dollars that should have been spent, for example, on Alaska's failing school system. We have the lowest rate of high school graduation in the country. Not all of you may think aerial predator hunting is so bad, but how anyone (other than Alaska wolf-haters, of which there are many, most without teeth), could think this use of funds is appropriate is beyond me. If you want to know more about the aerial hunting travesty, let me know and I will send some links to informative web sites.

    She has been a strong supporter of increased use of fossil fuels, yet the McCain campaign has the nerve to say she has "green" policies. The only thing green about Sarah Palin is her lack of experience. She has consistently supported drilling in ANWR, use of coal-burning power plants (as I write this, a new coal plant is being built in her home town of Wasilla), strip mining, and almost anything else that will unnecessarily exploit the diminishing resources of Alaska and destroy its environment.

    Prior to her one year as governor of Alaska, she was mayor of Wasilla, a small red neck town outside Anchorage. The average maximum education level of parents of junior high school kids in Wasilla is 10th grade. Unfortunately, I have to go to Wasilla every week to get groceries and other supplies, so I have continual contact with the people who put Palin in office in the first place. I know what I'm talking about. These people don't have a concept of the world around them or of the serious issues facing the US. Furthermore, they don't care. So long as they can go out and hunt their moose every fall, kill wolves and bears and drive their snow mobiles and ATVs through every corner of the wilderness, they're happy. I wish I were exaggerating.

    The NYT is carrying a story that shows how Palin brought “wedge politics” to Wasilla when she first ran for mayor. It says she circulated anti-abortion fliers. She played up her church work and her NRA membership. The state GOP, never involved before because city elections are nonpartisan, ran advertisements on Ms. Palin’s behalf. Palin and her passion for Republican ideology and kooky brand of evangelical religious faith overtook a town known for a wide libertarian streak and for helping start the Iditarod sled dog race.

    Sarah Palin is currently involved in a political corruption scandal. She fired an individual in law enforcement here because she didn't like how he treated one of her relatives during a divorce. The man's performance and ability weren't considered; it was a totally personal firing and is currently under investigation. While the issue isn't close to the scandal of Ted Steven's corruption, it shows that Palin isn't "squeaky clean" and causes me to think there may be more issues that could come to light. Clearly McCain doesn't care.

    When you line Palin up with Biden, the comparison would be laughable if it weren't so serious. Sarah Palin knows nothing of economics (admittedly a weak area for McCain), or of international affairs, knows nothing of national government, Social Security, unemployment, health care systems - you name it. The idea of her meeting with heads of foreign governments around the world truly frightens me.

    In an increasingly dangerous world, with the economy in shambles in the US, Sarah Palin is uniquely UNqualified to be vice president. John McCain is not a young man. Should something happen to him such that the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate as Sarah Palin. The choice of Palin is a cheap shot by McCain to try to get Hillary supporters to vote for him. When McCain introduced her today, Palin had the nerve to compare herself with Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro. Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton.

    To those of you who, like me, supported Hillary and were upset that she did not get the nomination, please don't think that Sarah Palin is a worthy substitute. If you supported Hillary, regardless of what you think the media and the Democratic Party may have done to undermine her campaign, the person to support now is Obama, not Sarah Palin. To those of you who are independent or undecided, don't let the choice of Palin sway you in favor of McCain. Choosing her shows how unqualified McCain is to be president. To those of you who are conservative, I guess you have no choice for president. But please try to see how the poor choice of Palin tells us a great deal about McCain's judgment.

    While the political posturing inherent in the choice of Palin is obvious, the more serious issue is the fact that the VP is, literally, a heartbeat away from the presidency. Her own mother-in-law told the Anchorage Daily News that Sarah Palin is totally and unequivocally unqualified to be vice president, let alone president.

    I know this is a lengthy and emotional email, but the stakes are high. I thought it might help for all of you, regardless of political affiliation, to know something about Palin from someone who has to live with her administration in Alaska on a daily basis.

    Dr. Jacqueline Taylor Basker
    Skype: jtaylorbasker
    jtaylorbasker@gmail.com
    jacqui taylor basker - Facebook
    http://www.artjtaylorbasker.net
    blog

    www.jtbinjordan.blogspot.com

    http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2008...
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    how interesting. so it's not just the meanie leftist blogs behind this???
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    Excellent post and piece of writing. Is she a friend of yours, meemer? This needs to be widely circulated.
  • meemers · 1 year ago
    No, I found it on:
    http://thepoliticalcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/
    The Progressive Curmudgeon

    I felt that it is a worthy piece and it should be passed around! So by all means...Pass it around!
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    Totally OT:

    Does "vetting" include paternity test(s)?
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    I'll bet the house that Palin will step down (be dumped) due to "family reasons". McCain wants a do-over..........
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I am withdrawing this comment. Reference for Romney taking over from McCain is AFTER the election should McCain fail.
  • doug · 1 year ago
    Not only is the Palin VP choice going to bring down the GOP but it will also cause damage to the vast right-wing Christian Evangelical establishment.
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    I have a theory about that...

    The Republicans are the party, a coalition of resentment: Economic Elites resenting the New Deal, Nationalist resenting Vietnam, Southerners resenting the outcome of the civil war, religious conservatives resenting the growth of civil liberties, bigots resenting the civil rights movement. As a result of this resentment, they are actually trying to ruin the United States because the feel if they can't have things their way, then they feeled compelled to ruin the country - or at least all of its institutions.

    This explains the last eight years looting and recklessness.

    Irony of ironies - it now appears as if resentment is eating away and destroying the Republican party.

    McCain has his own resentments against his own party. First for what they did to him in 2000. That stuff got buried under the carpet over the last eight years, as McCain went along to get along. Now in 2008 the wingnuts kept him from choosing Lieberman or one of his other first choices. So what does he do? He picks Palin. They want a wingnut V.P. - he gave them one, in spades.

    From McCain's perspective it's a can't miss. Either he wins the presidency or he makes the wingnuts look like, well, wingnuts. They get an initial step forward, but then their inelastic advocacy for someone clearly not prepared for the job makes the look truly radical, and unhinged.

    In picking Palin, if McCain loses the election, he gains the pleasure of watching the people in the party that beat up on him so badly, go down in their own ruins.

    That's the problem with resentment. It reminds me of the Confederacy during the Civil War. They went to war over the right of states to succeed from the union. However when things were going badly, North Carolina moved to succeed from the Confederacy - exposing the absudity of the cause for which they were fighting.

    Resentment, in the Republican party, is not just for breakfast anymore.
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    Why, why, why is Obama doing this? He's gonna help inflate the size of O'Reilly's head tenfold. What a waste of time it will be. Nothing good can come from it. Why not go on, I don't know, Olbermann???

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/o...

    September 2, 2008, 9:27 pm
    Obama to Appear on Fox on Thursday Night
    By Jeff Zeleny

    CHICAGO — Before Senator John McCain delivers his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention on Thursday, Senator Barack Obama will make a marquee appearance of his own.

    Call it counter-intuitive. He will appear on “The O’Reilly Factor” on Fox News Channel.

    For Mr. Obama, it will be the first time in his presidential candidacy that he’s on Bill O’Reilly’s prime-time program. The appearance is intended to put Mr. Obama before a conservative audience, one week after drawing 40 million TV viewers at his own acceptance speech.

    Mr. Obama has had a strained history with the network, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Is this a sign of burying the hatchet or simply politically smart programming? Stay tuned.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    "Why, why, why is Obama doing this"?

    Why? Because he wants to be elected POTUS, and it can't be done without FOX viewers.
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    He won't win by courting Fox viewers. Fox viewers have an unshakable agenda - to hate Dems.

    And, he's going on someone else's turf. Thats the wrong thing to do when you're trying to win.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Lot's of Dem's watch FOX....they want to see what both sides are saying on issues of the day.
  • Milli · 1 year ago
    Yes, Dems watch it - but they know Fox is a piece a crap and only watch it to see how ridiculous they are. No new voters are going to be "won over" by Obama appearing on Fox. Things are going really well for Obama. McCain is in the throes of self-destruction. Obama needs to hang tight for now and not do anything to divert attention away from the Palin fiasco.


    That said I hope Obama mops the floor with him.
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    McCain is not going to let Palin speak to the media and is also curtailing his own relationship with the press (once idolatrous of him). Obama may be showing that he is not afraid of free speech and that he is not afraid to talk to anyone. I think he will handle himself well. He did on Christopher Wallace's program.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Billow thinks he's gonna get Obama to lose his cool. And create an "Angry Black Man" to scare Fox News sheep. Yeah, right, Mr. "Fuck It!! We'll Do it Live!!" is gonna make Mr. Smooth Jazz blow a gasket....
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    Who has the brass balls? Would the Maverick EVER go on Olbermann or Maddow? I thought not...
  • Bubbles · 1 year ago
    He won't even go on Larry King.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    God's Little Maverick chickened out of Larry King Live...

    so far, Obama's political instincts are right on....this will be good.
  • FiOnion · 1 year ago
    Read Vanity Fair, about halfway down the page. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008...

    It seems Murdoch and Ailes managed to invite him?
  • tjlabs · 1 year ago
    The Palin ploy may just turn out to be a winner for the Republicans. Some observations follow. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/09/sugar-and-spi...
  • Lolis · 1 year ago
    If McCain were 60 and healthy, if we weren't in two wars, if she knew something about the economy, Palin might help him. If he's lucky she'll be a wash. Some will vote for him because of her and some will vote against. Enough people are fed up with the culture wars and Republican incompetence to care that she's a woman.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    the cat's outta the bag...
    Even US magazine has the facts about Palin...how are they going to control the message now?

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/liveblogging/2008/09/h...
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    I now LOVE US Magazine. The GOP thought they were gonna get a slobbering valentine ("She shops for dinner like US!"), and they got a total hatchet job, instead.
  • TomJoad · 1 year ago
    She is most certainly in some kind of PR, intense immersion training for the day when she can learn to dodge, duck, and not answer questions, while seeming to be everything to everyone.

    They won't let her out amongst the people til she can.
  • KarenMrsLloydRichards · 1 year ago
    She is being subjected to intense speech therapy just in order to pronounce "ing" as "ing," not "een."
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    of course, they'll keep the "nookular" and the "eye-rack". that's tough talk.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    this is big, folks...Obama's ad on abortion rights calls bullshit on God's Little Maverick...excellent...Atrios is impressed that dems use the word "abortion".

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13103...
  • naschkatzehussein · 1 year ago
    I can't remember where I saw it, but, yes, John McCain has stated that Sarah Palin will not be talking to the press unless she is guaranteed some sort of pass. Questions before hand to be answered by staff and answers read off cue cards by Palin? I don't know, but it's not going to fly. I've posted elsewhere that I think McCain will try to cancel the debates too, not just for her sake but also for his own. He cancels his Larry King appearance, he's having a spat with one of the debate moderators, Tom Brokaw. They know that neither McCain nor Palin can debate against Obama and Biden.
  • houstonray · 1 year ago
    I read the same thing somewhere too. Isn't this the way they always work? Questions ahead of time...must not ask this or that...Have to go easy...spin spin spin....