DISQUS

AMERICAblog: Wednesday Morning Open Thread

  • ccokz · 1 year ago
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Not sure why Betray-Us is viewed as some kind of expert.

    Bush and Cheney were already keeping us in Iraq with no timetable or exit strategy.

    This guy's just presenting the same aimless plan with new window dressing.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    Bush Bites...

    Not sure why Petraus is an expert? Try Education and Experiance for a starter. Try looking at his decorations and the 4 stars on his uniform and most would say he is an expert in warfare.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    The general's tone was notably sober, and despite an intensified American military campaign over the past 15 months, he acknowledged: "We haven't turned any corners. We haven't seen any lights at the end of the tunnel."

    Shit.

    Rumsfeld could have done about the same as this guy.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Rumsfeld was just better at lying about it.
  • bumpkis · 1 year ago
    I have some anecdotal stuff about Crocker. After Gulf War One ended and things had settled down a while, the interior of the US Embassy was decorated with war memorabilia. This was done by Crocker's predecessor, and fundie evangelical ambassador.

    When Crocker arrived, one of the first changes he made was to get rid of all that crap hanging on the walls...."the war is over, get rid of this stuff". I have some of it here with me. I don't think they ever got rid of that captured Iraqi tank in the parking lot that the military dumped there for a souvenier, although Crocker tried to have that removed as well.

    WAPO did a personal interest profile on him a long time ago, if I find it, I'll post it. Does not sound like the guy we all watched yesterday carry water for these NEOCONS.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Matthew's on his show yesterday asked why it's Petreaus answering questions.

    Bush is the Commander in Chief......Petreaus' job is to carry out the orders....not answering policy questions.

    It should have been Bush in the chair answering the questions.

    BTW.....whatever happened to the War Czar that Bush appointed some time back???

    Bush will do anything but take responsibility for his disaster in Iraq.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Grandma: Petraeus can't claim executive priviledge which Dubya would surely do. You know he doesn't think he needs to defend or explain any of his craziness.
  • Trithemius · 1 year ago
    Why does Air America continue to use Randi Rhodes name and product on her show when they've suspended her? I hope she sues them. Who is the corporate whore now? Oh yeah.....and Betrayus is a liar along with the rest of them.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Good morning, beautiful people.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    NY Times headline:

    Iraq Hearing Depicts a Nation Divided

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-US-Iraq-D...

    Divided????.....not on the war.....majority of Americans want us out of Iraq....and have for some time .
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    Good morning. It is gloomy here in NJ. You might have already seen it,
    but it's worth watching again. Obama is really funny, and his delivery, as usual,
    great. We need a laugh sometimes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVlZZdxZ9AU&feat...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Greenspan: U.S. in recession

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080408/bs_nm/usa_e...

    No shit Sherlock.....
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Oh fuck Greenspan, and Betrayus, Crocker, and esp. Bush, who thought he would be one Glorious Leader and when the last 8 years revealed what an ignorant idiot he really is, puts the responsibility on others to clean up his mess.

    Well, if they want the job...I have some KY Jelly to sell them.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Sage24

    Thanks for the video link.....

    I sure did need a laugh this morning!
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Betrayus and Crock (er)

    aptly named......
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Older and Wiser

    I so agree.......I am so sick of Bush literally getting away with murder....and never held accountable for anything.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    A federal investigation has concluded that U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman's 2006 re-election campaign was to blame for the crash of its Web site the day before Connecticut's heated Aug. 8 Democratic primary.

    The FBI office in New Haven found no evidence supporting the Lieberman campaign's allegations that supporters of primary challenger Ned Lamont of Greenwich were to blame for the Web site crash.

    http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_04_06_archive.h...
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    There's A Reason McCain Graduated 6th From The Bottom At West Point

    And that's because he's dumb as a post:

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/theres-r...

    Just what we DON'T need.....four more years of dumb.....
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Ouch!

    Hillary Rodham Clinton wants voters to decide the nomination based on who can coolly and competently run the country. She had better hope they don’t study her recent campaign too closely for the answer.

    Clinton has overseen two major staff shake-ups in two months. She has left a trail of unpaid bills and unhappy vendors and had to loan her own campaign $5 million to keep it afloat in January. Her campaign badly underestimated her main adversary, Barack Obama, miscalculated the importance of organizing caucus states and was caught flat-footed after failing to lock up the nomination on Super Tuesday.

    It would be easy to dismiss all of this as fairly conventional political stumbling — if she hadn’t made her supreme readiness and managerial competence the central issue of her presidential campaign.


    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9478....
  • Webster · 1 year ago
    And 4024 American deaths in Iraq as of this morning. How many will die today as Patreus spins?
  • Trithemius · 1 year ago
    I was teaching my youngest kid again yesterday about the Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes and we both agreed that as "A man of God" Bush was a failure!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Trithemius

    I was teaching my youngest kid again yesterday about the Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes and we both agreed that as "A man of God" Bush was a failure!

    ----

    As a man, he's a failure too.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Trithemius
    I was teaching my youngest kid again yesterday about the Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes and we both agreed that as "A man of God" Bush was a failure!

    -----

    No.

    This is how he got his stars.

    WASHINGTON, Sep 12 (IPS) - In sharp contrast to the lionisation of Gen. David Petraeus by members of the U.S. Congress during his testimony this week, Petraeus's superior, Admiral William Fallon, chief of the Central Command (CENTCOM), derided Petraeus as a sycophant during their first meeting in Baghdad last March, according to Pentagon sources familiar with reports of the meeting.

    Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be "an ass-kissing little chickenshit" and added, "I hate people like that", the sources say. That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as trying to ingratiate himself with a superior.
  • CDS2 · 1 year ago
    What does that comment have to do with his ability, training, experience in running a war?
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Sorry, Trith.

    Meant to direct that at the troll.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    grandma, as shallow and intellectually challenged themselves as some Americans are, it's no wonder they go for the Jingoistic Militarist McCrazy, who has the intellectual depth of a bird bath because they themselves are that way.

    Fear, incuriosity, disdain for learning, and resistance to challenging Manwhore McCrazy just may get us another 4 years of this Bush-like character. Why, if McCrazy's rich wife hadn't funded his campaigns and kept him up, selling him to a large senile, like-minded population in AZ, he'd just be another homeless Vietnam vet on the streets of Phoenix...begging for enough money to buy a malt liquor and muttering to himself instead of the American public. (No slight intended to Vietnam vets who, through no fault of their own, are truly suffering from that other fiasco.)
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    The general's tone was notably sober, and despite an intensified American military campaign over the past 15 months, he acknowledged: "We haven't turned any corners. We haven't seen any lights at the end of the tunnel."

    Ha! The guy's a genius!
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Face it.

    The mistake was baked in the cake about 5 and half years ago, when Gen. Shinsecki said he'd need several hundred thousand troops to do the job, and Bush pushed him out of the military for saying it.

    Failure was assured at that point.
  • AdrianBrowne · 1 year ago
    In order to solve McCain's illegal campaign fundraising problem he gave some money back. Does he have any money to spend now? What's going on with that?
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    Rush, Hannity, O'Reilly et al.........are all responsible for the dumbing down of America.

    keeping America dumb gets people like W and MoreWar McCain in office.
  • ugh · 1 year ago
    We're safer because since we spent 3 trillion dollars on this war the republicans can't start and more bs wars. When do the war crimes trials for Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Yoo, Feith and GOP memebers of congress start?
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    Immediately at the start of this morning's hearing, Ike Skelton kissed the asses of Petraeus and Crocker...

    Some people just can't take the truth, I suppose.
  • OlderAndWiser · 1 year ago
    ugh, you might want to go to the NPR site to find out how Feith is crafting his defense...he's written a book, obfuscating and defending his criminal activities.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    In Justice Shift, Corporate Deals Replace Trials

    The Justice Department, once known for taking down giant corporations, has put off prosecuting more than 50 companies suspected of wrongdoing over the last three years.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/washington/09...
  • Trithemius · 1 year ago
    No problem Bush_Bites:

    Totally, totally agreed! Bush as a "man" is a total loser/murderer. Unfortunately where we live his family is somewhat loved. Fortunately though I'm seeing more and more bumper stickers that say "01/20/09". He lost here in 2004. And btw, Bush can bite me.
    ;o)
  • dad · 1 year ago
    My suggestion to my fellow Democrats: Direct ALL questions to Crocker

    Congratulate the good General and Our troops on their military successes - then stop.

    The problem is NOT a military problem. It is a DIPLOMATIC and POLICY problem.

    All questions and/or interogations should be directed at CROCKER.
    It is where they belong and in challenging him youy are not attacking the General or the troops.


    Please. Don't be stupid.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    AP Photo
    Tears run down President Bush's cheek as he takes part in a Medal of Honor ceremony in the East Room of the White House, Tuesday, April 8, 2008,

    http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Medal-of-Honor-ce...

    Wow...maybe he'll get an Oscar....what a performance !!
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    I didn't hear enough about some of Crocker's statements. I didn't and don't have much time today to investigate this but I am sure in a small news clip I heard something about Crocker proposing an agreement of sorts that would totally bypass our Congress. Can someone enlighten me on this?
  • Trithemius · 1 year ago
    Dad, your point is well taken. I come from a Military family and am well aware that the blame lies with Bush/Cheney. Not anyone else.
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    acquarius2

    Yes...it came during Hillary's questioning....
  • grandma · 1 year ago
    In this clip Senator Clinton questions Ambassador Crocker on the wisdom of submitting an agreement to the Iraqi parliament as an executive agreement rather than one that would be submitted to the US congress for “advice and consent.”

    http://www.veracifier.com/post/6800/hillary-cli...
  • jr · 1 year ago
    "I want to be accepted by Rush and Glenn Beck!"-David Betray Us
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    Grandma

    Thanks for the link. So why did this not get major play in the press and on the blogs. This seems very serious to me.
  • Mikki --SE Pennsylvania · 1 year ago
    Its repulsive! Yesterday and now today, just as 7 months ago when they last did their dog and pony show, Petraeus and Crocker are proving themselves the same repugnant, lying, two-faced weasels they were before. I was reminded that Admiral Fallon reputedly called Petraeus an ass-kisssing chickenshit and I don't doubt it for a moment. Look at the facts Petraeus is only where he is because Dubya went through his card file of superfluous commanders until he found Petraeus who was willing to kiss ass to get a pay boost. Crocker is an emminently forgettable political hack who seems scared of his own shadow or more likely that of Big Momma at state. Just watch him when he is faced with possibly giving an answer not covered in his prepared talking points and you can see him sweat and hem and haw. Petraeus is no better, apparently unable to give a straight answer even when pressed by senior senators. He is a disgrace to the uniform and should be demoted and discharged dishonorably. Crocker needs to be sent to the worse hell-hole on earth as permanent US representative. Worthless! So far the hearing have at least provided another venue for Insane McCain to demonstrate, again on camera, his appalling lack of understanding of the situation in Iraq. Mind you, this is supposed to be his star issue. Can you image his ignorance on other issues? It boggles the mind, but then this is the guy who thinks everyone believes the war-hero crapola! Note to "my friend" John: They DON'T!
  • aquarius2 · 1 year ago
    From one lawbreaker to another. Craig is giving Vitter support and blaming the media.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/craig-offer...
  • Mike Meyer · 1 year ago
    IMPEACH 1-202-225-0100
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    McNeocon is purposefully conflating Shiia and Sunni in order to blame Iran for Al Quaeda in Iraq. His goal is to create our next military target: Iran.

    i think this would be a better point to be making against him than that he's wrong or just ill informed or making 'gaffes' or having senior moments. He's much more dangerous than that.
  • tlsintx · 1 year ago
    none of bushco's excuses for war with Iraq have been borne out...

    no wmd's
    no democracy established there
    US is no safer now

    so why are we still there, wasting billions per day, in an unwinnable situation that only creates further problems for the US?

    why is Petraeus brought back to testify again and again if he can't answer that? he isn't being questioned on his ability, training or experience.
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    Dad, you are right on!
  • Busboy · 1 year ago
    McCain says he's running within the system and will accept federal matching funds. That puts him at a huge disadvantage since Obama, in 3 months, could probably raise as much as McCain will have in total.