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One hell of a party that's for sure.
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don't ya just love it
First Draft of Maya Angelou's Open Letter
Jerry and Joe Long
Dear Friend:
I am writing to tell you about my friend, Hillary Clinton, and why I am standing with her in her campaign for the presidency in 2012 after she ruins Senator Obama and the Democratic party this year. I know the kind of president Hillary Clinton will be because I know dozens of the personalities she has assumed over the years.
I am inspired by her insincerity and her dishonesty. She is a reliable and trustworthy opportunist. She is someone I not only fear but one for whom I have profound worry regarding stability.
Hillary does not waver in standing up for her prerogative. She has always been a passionate protector of her husband's sexual appetites. As a child, she was taught that all Iraq's children are politically expedient, and as a mother, she understood that her child wasn't safe unless all Iranians were obliterated. As I wrote about Hillary recently in a praise song: "She is the slayer of every hope and every man who longs for fair play, botcher of health care, champion of NAFTA and Wal-Mart."
It may be easy to view Hillary Clinton through the narrow lens of those who would ask her to explain her lies. Hillary sees us as we are, black and brown and white and yellow and pink and relishes our differences knowing that fundamentally we are all exploitable. She is able to look through complexion and see hollow wedge issues.
She has endured great scrutiny, and still is barely scrutinized. Hillary Clinton will not give up on you, unless you are a caucus-goer or black. She is a long-distance runner even though she previously agreed that the race should be a sprint. I am honored to say I am with her until her loss is so obvious that it would be an act of transcendent madness for even Carville to claim otherwise.
I am supporting Hillary Clinton because I know that she will make the most positive difference in the lives of corporate donors and she will help our country continue to be what it currently is. Whether you are her supporter, leaning towards her, undecided, or supporting someone else, I believe Hillary Clinton will never forget anyone who didn't fall in line - and she will make you pay. It is no small thing that along the way we will repeat history together.
Vote for Hillary Clinton and show your support at www.hillaryclinton.com. I know she will make use of her power.
Picking and choosing isn't an option.
Hillary: the GOP Heroine.
Suggests she become McCain's running mate!
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/stumped/?hpid=op...
The article also speaks to the issue of criticizing Bill as a means of criticizing Hilary, and how that is mysogenistic. As if Hilary isn't an independent person, but somehow only exists as an extension of her husband.
Here's the URL for the article, if anyone is interested.
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/04/...
This thought had occurred to me when reading reports about Bill Clinton's refusal to make public the list of donors to his Presidential library. I don't remember any demand for Bush 41 to reveals the donors to his library, on the theory that those donors would be looking for a payback from Bush 43. And I mean what I say when I don't remember it -- it may well have happened and I just wasn't paying attention.
But I do think one of the reasons Hilary does so well with women are critiques such as this one. First people criticize Hilary for counting her First Lady years as part of the experience which qualifies her to be President, because she had no security clearance and could not have partaken in a lot of discussions; then the same people criticize her for saying she was not part of the discussion about Presidential pardons.
To say nothing of the simultaneous discussion of how Hilary and Bill are forever ending African-American participation in the Democratic Party while discussing how Bill Clinton was severely criticized for pardoning two Black Panthers.
I know damn well that my mother did not want to be judged by my late father's actions. I bet a lot of women out there also don't enjoy being tarred with the same brush used for their spouses. So I'm thinking that attacking Bill Clinton, or what Hilary knew about what Bill was doing in the White House, may be contributing to her resiliency and her popularity in this demographic.
Whether there is tryth in the article is open to debate.
Hey Hillary uses the big scary black man thing ALL THE TIME.
And if she weren't whining about being an oppressed woman all the time I might have a little sympathy.
BUT I DON'T.
SHE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT and reaping what she sows.
Fuck her.
IT IS PERSONAL with Hillary.
KNOW THEM BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP.
Bestselling author and journalist Andrew Sullivan has been chronicling the racism and corruption of the Clintons for a long time. John also posted a very good article when it was revealed that Hillary had gone so far as to photo-shop Obama's skin color and nose size in negative ads to appeal to her bigoted constituency. http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/why-is-obama...
Hillary can't have it both ways. She uses her "experience" as First Lady to justify her leadership ability on 'day one' but when the bad policies of Bill are exposed, Hillary claims she didn't know. Women and men hate liars equally. It's nothing personal, nor sexist. The Clintons will lie about anything to get elected. After almost 16 years of lies, Americans are full of it.
It doesn't get anymore personal.
And THAT is why she will NEVER win.
It is personal with most of us Hillary haters.
Either Hilary's experience as First Lady can be counted for her and against her, or her experiences as First Lady cannot be counter for her or against her. But to say that her experiences as First Lady cannot be used for her but can be used against her does not pass the "smell" test.
And, again, my personal belief (and when I say personal I mean unsupported by any evidence) is that attacks such as this is why Hilary is running so strongly with women.
On Fri, 4/25/08, Disqus <> wrote:
Hillary has strong support among older Democratic women, but not among Independents and cross-over GOPers.
If she can't win the nomination, she definitely can't win the presidency.
What better way to save us all from ourselves? (sn) (BIG SN)
make Obama's supporters disheartened. We should keep in focus, that Obama is leading in ALL fronts, votes, delegates, states, in the polls nationally, more super delegates are going over to his side, and he still has tremendous momentum. He can still draw large crowds, and has low negativity ratings compared to Hillary's.
So let's not allow the media, and Hillary's ugly, ugly, tactics, draw our attention away from Obama's standing.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/200...
The feminist's icon: OBLITERATE THEM!!!!!
Hillary "already bloody from my next war" Clinton.
Here's a list of Bill's pardons:
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grant...
http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/25/obama-going-...
He has left on-the-ground conservatives – the local right-winger, the town intellectual reading Burke and Kirk, the old Reagan committeewoman – feeling undefended, unrepresented and alone.
This will have impact down the road.
http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html
i took a little risk
send lawyers guns and money
hey!
Implied threats are OK by you, though?
You're too kind.
Many here believe that Hillary is SATAN and her followers DEMONS.
Reports of the incident prompted a nearly immediate spike in oil prices, which jumped $3 per barrel.
Exit polls in Pennsylvania showed that among African-Americans, Hillary did even worse than McCain. She and her lying, adulterous husband have become despised among Black voters. Minority voters are finally fed up with the cynical Southern Strategy being used by Hillary and her white handlers.
Lordy, Hillary people are freakin delusional.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...
I think the point is that nobody can have it both ways.
Either Hilary's experience as First Lady can be counted for her and against her, or her experiences as First Lady cannot be counter for her or against her. But to say that her experiences as First Lady cannot be used for her but can be used against her does not pass the "smell" test.
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I think you completely missed the big picture here...
Why is it the fact that Obama knew one of the Weathermen was "fair game" (remember, the guy was never convicted of a crime), and she's able to shrug off the fact that her husband pardoned two domestic terrorists?
the 'I don't remember' defence doesn't add up... its as frustrating hearing it from her as it was during gonzales' congressional hearings.
hillary can't have it both ways either.
and as for the attacks?? who threw mud first?
a couple more questions... who is returning fire here, Obama or the blogsphere?? can Obama be held accountable for the liberal blogsphere?
maybe that'll be hillary's next 'guilt by association' point if there's another debate.
To be even more perfectly honest, I thought that Clinton's citing Ayers' New York Times quote, given before 9/11 but published on 9/11, were a cheap shot. Obviously, Ayers had no knowledge of the events of 9/11 when his comments were made. I'm not in favor of anyone's cheap shots.
And for further clarification, my initial post was about the possibility of mysogeny playing a role in attacks against the Clintons such as the one posted on Americablog. I did not intend to make a statement about Obama or his campaign at that time. That being said, I do see implied in my statement there is a comment about the Obama campaign, as I do find it subtly sexist when Obama responds to a criticsm about his past with criticisms of Bill's past.
As for who threw mud first, as I frequently tell my 4 year old daughter, "I don't care who started it, that's no excuse for what you did." If Hilary is unfairly injecting race into the campaign (which I think is the underlying issue here with respect to her discussing Ayers and Wright), it does not justify unfairly injecting gender into the campaign (which I believe is the underlying issue with respect to Hilary's being constantly challenged with her husband's actions as President by Obama and others.)
As for missing the big picture, I think asking whether or not mysogeny is playing a role not only in critiques of Hilary Clinton but in her continued strong support by women voters is very much a part of the big picture. Just as the discussions about how the Clintons' statements may be alienating African-American Democrats.
What is 2 + 2?
Answer: Anything you darn well want it to be!
This is also true about all of the other Hillary supporters I have talked to.
Now, lets look at Obama supporters. They seem to have such anger and hate boiling deep within (the same hate you blast Hillary for on a daily basis). They attack her 10 fold everytime she opens her mouth. This site is actually saying she is responsible for higher gas prices!
When I hear the line that Hillary is destroying the party, and then I come on here and see the venom that surrounds the daily activities of the supporters of "hope" and "change", it makes me laugh.
no doubt at all.
Hummm
I rather think that if I were running for Senator while my spouse was President, it would be wise to maintain some distance. I could just imagine the headlines were it discovered that I had been getting special briefings from the White House solely because of my relationship with the President.
And it is also entirely possible that the matter was never brought up because "...Hillary had no problems criticizing Bill's offer to pardon even more terrorists in 1999..."If you know what the response is going to be, why ask the question?
Delronda, you wrote the following about the Clintons: "When Bill Clinton made all his slimy pardons...someone as corrupt as Clinton...her blatant lack of values and constant lying...depraved losers." And right smack in the middle of what otherwise would have passed as mild Clinton-bashing on this blog, you gave youself away: "The GOP has used Clinton's almost criminal conduct as a contrast to the few and legitimate pardons given by Bush Sr. and Reagan."
If you really feel that Bush 41 and St. Ronnie were such excellent examples of rectitude that President Clinton 1 has somehow tarnished them by simlpy also being president, then I suggest you start an intensive course of study of recent US political history with an emphasis on the presidencies of Ronald W. Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
Otherwise I will simply assume that you are here to assist your real candidate by urging on the feeding frenzy.
Oh. by the way, it has been shown that the "photoshopped" picture wasn't retouched.
That's three for three.
What does that say about this site.
Its like you are using the Fox News playbook.
John, the next time you come begging for money, all of us who have supported Hillary will remember all of this.