AMERICAblog: While trashing the McCain campaign, Bill Kristol offers to save the McCain campaign, so he can trash McCain more after he doesn't listen
Rab
· 1 year ago
I want repugs extinct after this election, seriously.
caphillprof
· 1 year ago
After this election, Kristol will be part of the has-been old guard. If the GOP is to continue, it will be with the 4th generation. One can only wonder what that'll be like. The 3d generation (GW and McCain) didn't work out so well.
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Rupert Murdoch should fund psychiatric treatment for poor Billy.
Sheez.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
Kristol made klear and shorter: Same old McCain campaign...
Bubbles
· 1 year ago
Just like a republican - he thinks all he has to do is fire Rove's proteges, retool, and launch a new marketing campaign.
The problem is not the marketing. The problem is the product. And I don't just mean McCain.
The problem is all those Neocon ideas that have absolutely failed. The only way the public could ever be sure of jettisoning them is by voting for Obama. McCain has too many Neocons on his staff already.
And that's what this is all about Kristol. Trying to find a way to keep the viability of the Neocon movement alive.
I think Kristol's Neocon colleague at the Times, David Brooks came closer to the truth in talking about ideas on Friday. The idea factory for Republicans was a 'counter-establishment' of conservative institutions - a reaction to the "professoriate' that was deemed too liberal. And there is the problem.
Professors are in the idea business.
To ensure their ideas are good ones Professors are given tenure. As Upton Sinclair said, "it's hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." The fact that Republican had to build a 'counter establishment' should tell you that the ideas they constructed were inferior. They were contaminated and warped from the start by Sinclair's paradox.
There's no shortage of inferior products with superior market share. Republicans use of corporate marketing finesse overcame a lot of short comings in their product offerings. The problem is those products were bought, implemented and found to not work. No marketing finesse can overcome failure. At some point you have to produce a superior product.
McCains problem is he has to overcome Republican Neocon product offerings that have essentially flopped. In short, McCains problem is Bill Kristol.
Cpeterka
· 1 year ago
YES !!
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
A solitary outhouse, Unfathomably deep. The Republicans.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
We had the fall of communism in 1991.
Is this the fall of capitalism?
And why did the cost of hotel rooms in Manhattan just TRIPLE last month????
Dave of the Jungle
· 1 year ago
Because all the fat cats need temporary housing before they move to Dubai.
ShirleyGoodnessanMercy
· 1 year ago
I wonder if the current crisis will halt the Dubai building boom? Did you know that 15-20% of the world's cranes are in Dubai??!! It's insane!
Cpeterka
· 1 year ago
What happens to Dubai with Global Warming... Add a meter to the ocean and those Palm Tree Islands all start to get flooded !! Neat-o !!
mmedefarge
· 1 year ago
wouldn't that be poetic justice....
djm8
· 1 year ago
The UAE's water table has been falling by a meter a year for about 20 years, meaning their groundwater is rapidly becoming too salty for irrigation or drinking. They rely on oil-powered desalination plants for their water needs (Dubai doesn't have oil like Abu Dhabi). Dubai's speculative real estate boom is being used by Abu Dhabi as a case study in Mistakes To Avoid. We'll see the day when peregrines roost on the steel girders of unfinished Dubai condo buildings.
lilybart
· 1 year ago
Holiday gouging, always this way and this year they will try to make as much as possible during the holidays because JAN will be grim.
AdrianBrowne
· 1 year ago
Perhaps that has to do with the Dollar. New York is overrun with European tourists now. A trip to the U.S. "pays for itself."
Come see the ugly American in it's natural habitat.
lilybart
· 1 year ago
This only proves who actually has Executive Expertise, Obama the clear winner.
Rob Mule
· 1 year ago
All booing aside, is anyone else floored that a vice presidential candidate is merely wheeled out to center rink for a wave and accolades in a hockey half time show like some equally silent beauty queen or Scooby Doo-costumed promoter? Should Lillian Gish worrry that Sarah Palin will overtake her as the greatest silent star ever???
Indigo
· 1 year ago
Lilliam Gish never used a child as a human shield.
tlsintx
· 1 year ago
hey Kristol, get a clue...what is happening is the repudiation of everything you say, do and think. we don't want what you and your party have to offer. be gone.
munjoyfan
· 1 year ago
The debate this week is the last time for Obama to speak to the nation in detail about the economic situation and close the deal on the election. I know he has bought time on Oct 29 but that is too late. McCain could pull it off with a reasoned, detailed program--he got bashed for his housing proposal, but AFTER the debate, and by pundits to whom many voters have no access because they don't watch public television or the network Sunday morning shows. So it is incumbent on Obama to have a short program that hits all the undecideds. And he needs to warm in his tone--replace "you" with "we"; act as though he were talking to an elderly aunt, one on one, instead of whipping up a crowd, and have some of that Kennedy fighter stance, a slight crouch, in his body language. Clinton did it so well--a cock of the head, forward learning from the waist, loose, lithe, ready to pounce but oh so paternal and kind in voice.
Cpeterka
· 1 year ago
We should all SUPPORT Kristol, so that he becomes a legend and leader for the Republicans. We couldn't ask for a better thing than to have that Dik Wad in a position of power. He would continue to screw things up... so everyone say.. "Ohh, He is So Smart! How Inciteful! How Strategically thinking outside the box! " And hope to God that She ensures that Kristol continues to screw up the Republicans for many more years.
What'cha think?
Sage24
· 1 year ago
Kristol has no credibility. Wasn't he one of the neocons that supported Bush's bloody war, and even pushed for it? We all know how that ended.
These people are now desperate, and you will be able to see them act in strange ways. They have been constantly wrong on issues, and yet they have the chutzpah to show their faces, and try to act self righteous, after the damage they have caused this nation.
anastasjoy
· 1 year ago
"The media is hostile"? What world is HE in? It's just that SOME of the media are starting to report the truth, instead of continuing their usual double standard of ripping Democrats while ignoring identical behavior in Republicans. However, I've been searching high and low all weekend and today as well for the blazing headlines about Sarah Palin being found by the Alaska legislature - a committee of 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats - to have abused her power in office. As an excellent DailyKos diary pointed out, if it had been Joe Biden, he'd be off the ticket by this morning and the Obama campaign would be in disarray as that story would dominate all others. There is absolutely no question about that. So, Bill Kristol, where ARE the stories about what an unethical thug Sarah Palin is? .....crickets......
anastasjoy
· 1 year ago
The only way McCain could "pull it off", Munjoyfan, is with another bash-enraging whiplash reverse. McCain's economic policies as they stand are too disastrous for the average person to stand up under scrutiny (look at how he can't even deny the Obama charges about the horrendousness of his health care plan- because they are true). If he completely reneged on them on Wednesday, he would be setting in stone the narrative that he is erratic, inconsistent and can't be trusted- but he would anger the hard-line "money" Republicans.
At this point, I don't see a path for McCain to undo the damage.
lynchie
· 1 year ago
William Kristol the most useless, uniformed, out of touch asshole imaginable. He was roommates with Alan Keyes while at Harvard. So you get a double dose of right wing horseshit when they are together.
RLG
· 1 year ago
It's too late for John to do that. He would appear more erratic. It would give people the idea he would fire anybody at any time.
I do agree, his campaign has sank him. That and the fact he doesn't have any ideas of his own.
gwpriester
· 1 year ago
Maybe he could save his campaign and his credibility if he fired Palin and appointed someone who is more qualified for the post. Palin was a huge gamble, which looked as if it was going to work but now looks like it was a dumb move. Hindsight!
And of course, Republicans will never admit they were wrong. It is always the Democrat's fault or someone's fault.
High Crimes & Misdemeanors
· 1 year ago
hey you changed the header??? I kinda thought the original one was a little awkward, having kristol's name twice in one sentence was to much!!!
scytherius
· 1 year ago
Wow. Never in my life (and I'm 60+) has the phrase "you know you're in trouble when" applied more than it does now.
Mickey7
· 1 year ago
I subscribed to the NYT for 20 years, but had to cancel my subscription when they let that blowhard have a regular column. I simply could not financially contribute to a paper that would cater to the view of one of the chief architects of this deceitful war. It's not just that he's obnxious, it's that he is wrong nearly 100% of the time! I get that he is a supposed "intellectual," but most of his intellectual cred comes from having two parents who were. He has failed utterly to distinguish himself in any way.
cmccbald
· 1 year ago
Bill Kristol writes: "The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic."
Hmmmm.
"Strategic incoherence and operational incompetence."
Sounds like the perfect characterization of the Bush/Cheney/McCain "Great War on Terror" and "Operation Iraqi Freedom."
Not to mention their approach to disaster relief, as illustrated in their response to Katrina.
Or their economic policy of endless tax cuts and financial de-regulation, which they want to apply to health care and Social Security.
EmGD
· 1 year ago
Kristol's like a manic depressive. McCain's doing great. Terrible. Genius. Stupid. Victory. Defeat.
I'd almost feel sorry if it weren't for the fact that his ideas have helped destroy the Republican party.
As many have pointed out, nobody who knows anything -- even on the right -- cares what Kristol thinks; this is a pretty transparent attempt to avoid being the last rat off the ship.
It's much more interesting to note Palin's increasing restiveness. She's got a fairly clear history of stabbing mentors in the back once there's a percentage in it for her, and there certainly seems to be here.
paige
· 1 year ago
I love how the Palin/McCain ticket and idiot conservatives like Kristol criticize Obama for his "lack of executive experience". Would they seriously suggest that running a Presidential campaign for two years doesn't entail exercising executive authority? Well, apparently yes they would- which is why their campaign is so disastrous. They don't even know WHEN to be a leader, let alone HOW to be a leader. The way they are running their campaign for the Presidency is a preview of how they would run the country. **Shivers** . God help us if they get elected.
henrythefifth
· 1 year ago
Kristol is a perfect metaphor for the erratic McCain campaign. Hasn't he written that McCain needs to be meaner, then nicer, now fire everyone for being too mean.
The McCain camp is like the Three Stooges.
paulbe
· 1 year ago
I actually hate Bill Kristol. Not simple "there he goes again" disdain, but outright hatred to the point where if I saw him in the street....When people get concerned about the validity of dual-citizen Israeli-Americans having a disproportionate influence in the decisions of government, the and editorial processes of mass access media, then its people like Bill Kristol who leap to mind first up. ("megaphones" ready Israel firsters?)
Milli
· 1 year ago
We should send McCain's campaign staff a muffin basket or flowers. Keep up the good work....
All Comments
Sheez.
The problem is not the marketing. The problem is the product. And I don't just mean McCain.
The problem is all those Neocon ideas that have absolutely failed. The only way the public could ever be sure of jettisoning them is by voting for Obama. McCain has too many Neocons on his staff already.
And that's what this is all about Kristol. Trying to find a way to keep the viability of the Neocon movement alive.
I think Kristol's Neocon colleague at the Times, David Brooks came closer to the truth in talking about ideas on Friday. The idea factory for Republicans was a 'counter-establishment' of conservative institutions - a reaction to the "professoriate' that was deemed too liberal. And there is the problem.
Professors are in the idea business.
To ensure their ideas are good ones Professors are given tenure. As Upton Sinclair said, "it's hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." The fact that Republican had to build a 'counter establishment' should tell you that the ideas they constructed were inferior. They were contaminated and warped from the start by Sinclair's paradox.
There's no shortage of inferior products with superior market share. Republicans use of corporate marketing finesse overcame a lot of short comings in their product offerings. The problem is those products were bought, implemented and found to not work. No marketing finesse can overcome failure. At some point you have to produce a superior product.
McCains problem is he has to overcome Republican Neocon product offerings that have essentially flopped. In short, McCains problem is Bill Kristol.
Unfathomably deep.
The Republicans.
Is this the fall of capitalism?
And why did the cost of hotel rooms in Manhattan just TRIPLE last month????
Neat-o !!
Come see the ugly American in it's natural habitat.
Should Lillian Gish worrry that Sarah Palin will overtake her as the greatest silent star ever???
we don't want what you and your party have to offer. be gone.
We couldn't ask for a better thing than to have that Dik Wad in a position of power.
He would continue to screw things up... so everyone say.. "Ohh, He is So Smart! How Inciteful! How Strategically thinking outside the box! "
And hope to God that She ensures that Kristol continues to screw up the Republicans for many more years.
What'cha think?
These people are now desperate, and you will be able to see them act in strange ways. They have been constantly wrong on issues, and yet they have the chutzpah to show their faces, and try to act self righteous, after the damage they have caused this nation.
At this point, I don't see a path for McCain to undo the damage.
I do agree, his campaign has sank him. That and the fact he doesn't have any ideas of his own.
And of course, Republicans will never admit they were wrong. It is always the Democrat's fault or someone's fault.
Hmmmm.
"Strategic incoherence and operational incompetence."
Sounds like the perfect characterization of the Bush/Cheney/McCain "Great War on Terror" and "Operation Iraqi Freedom."
Not to mention their approach to disaster relief, as illustrated in their response to Katrina.
Or their economic policy of endless tax cuts and financial de-regulation, which they want to apply to health care and Social Security.
I'd almost feel sorry if it weren't for the fact that his ideas have helped destroy the Republican party.
http://thesebastards.blogspot.com/
It's much more interesting to note Palin's increasing restiveness. She's got a fairly clear history of stabbing mentors in the back once there's a percentage in it for her, and there certainly seems to be here.
The McCain camp is like the Three Stooges.