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AMERICAblog: White Supremacists see conservative Teabagging parties as recruitment opportunity

  • Moncusa · 5 months ago
    Ho hum. I guess any group can try to recruit anywhere. I'd guess 99 percent of the teabaggers have too much intellect for those racist groups. They'll probably even try recruiting at the march on Washington we do in October.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Quick little research shows one of their major recruiting target groups is the military. Guess according to the people here - because they show up around military and *try* to recruit them - the military are all by default racists. Such lack of logic - sheesh.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    And your point? Let's see - people who WORK can take a vacation day to exercise their rights to protest :)

    I'm sure that Jewish people weren't fond of that. However, you have a LONG way to go to show the 60+ pictures I found in 30 seconds showing no pics that you claim tea parties are :)

    The third - well, using the same pic twice doesn't count twice.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    Now, Now, we must reach out to White Supremacists...just because they have a differing opinion of things doesn't mean their point of view isn't valid. You can't force your opinions down everyone's throats.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    We should invite them to the table, because they have a legitimate point of view sanctified by the bible dontcha know.

    Maybe we can get one of their grand wizards to speak at an election event!

    *cough*
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    I believe they have a right to their opinion, they even have a right to express it. Has zero to do with if it is valid or not. They also have the right to be vilified by people that abhor it. Everyone has their rights.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    We must reach out to them and give them a seat at the table. Perhaps they can say a prayer at the 2012 Inauguration...for the Republican candidate.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    You can reach out if you want, but not me - want nothing to do with them.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    Then you'll just have to sit quietly and ignore the Inaugural prayer.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    In fact, you'll have to sit quietly while 70% of Americans go and get our government sponsored healthcare.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Well, I won't be quite about it. But you are probably correct, it will come to be - and then we can follow in the footsteps of the collapse of universal healthcare in Britain. Best hope is next elections get some folks with some brains to reverse it.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    Healthcare in America has already collapsed...I wasn't aware that millions of Britains are without healthcare like here. Then we better not copy their model...the Canadians and French are quite happy with their Universal Government plan however.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Healthcare in the UK is so restricted, many die - and it's still sinking. Sorry - the Canadians are worried the US will have universal healthcare or gov't healthcare - the rich ones come here for medical care when they can't get it there. The British tried that - so the NHS made a rule that if you go elsewhere for care, even if you pay for it yourself - the penalty is that you have to pay back all they've spent on you AND they'll never pay any of your medical again. Captive clientele.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    That's funny 'cause every Canadian I speak to loves their system...ditto the French. Of course none of them were super rich. I'm personally waiting 2 months to see a specialist at Kaiser referred by my primary care Dr. here.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    And the canadians I've talked to - and met - hate it if you need anything serious or expensive.

    Kaiser sucks, I was with them for a short time - they were great for colds and routine stuff. But when my mammogram (that if I was British I'd have to wait another 10 years to qualify for) showed a bunch of problems and possible breast cancer, they wanted me to give it 6 months to see what developed. My mother was end stage breast cancer at the time. Luckily it was open enrollment and I switched to BC/BS. I wait for nothing, and I can see any specialist from a podiatrist to a neurosurgeon for $20.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    If you are happy with your insurance then simply don't participate in the public "option".
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    I most certainly won't. I also don't want to pay for the insurance of many millions of others. I pay for mine and my choice, everyone should pay for their own too.
  • John · 5 months ago
    When you have rowdy, all-white mobs holding up signs asking the president to "go back to Africa" and depictions of watermelon patches in front of the White House, it sort of sends the message that you're racist. Republicans don't seem to understand this for some reason.

    And when somebody brings it up, they get all huffy and proclaim that they love all of God's little creatures. Or that it is the evil liberal media's fault for showing the "crazies" instead of the "normal" white people. Then they ask us to judge their noble, selfless hearts. Unfortunately GOPers, we don't have the proper equipment to judge your heart. We can only render judgments based on what we actually see. And if we see racism, then it might have something to do with the peculiar way in which you run your protests.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Oh god lord. Do you actually go to the tea parties and see who's there? Or do you just accept the images that the biased media show you on tv and the net? Because you can find plenty of images of 'normal white people' at them. Actually - just googled 'tea party protests' and looked - actually clicked on and looked - at the first three pages of images - that's at least 54 distinct images - plus more on the pages they link to - and not a SINGLE racist sign or image. Try thinking for yourself and educating yourself rather than just accepting what the biased media tells you on the tv.

    The rest of your post is just a bunch of crazy words and fluff you put out there as distraction away from the fact you are uneducated on the topic. I don't love all god's little creatures - hell, God is a figment of people's imagination and I love grilling and eating some of those tasty little creatures :) As for the 'evil liberal media' - isn't there a post right here about a DC paper selling 'access' to the powers to be? And you think they have no bias? That has no logic to it at all.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    I didn't see one minority. Not one. I have pages and pages in Flikr i can look at, and i did, and there was NOT ONE MINORITY.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    And your point is? That great masses of minorities didn't attend the protest?

    I found an image of mixed and black protestors in a 30 second search: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsvY/Seuy6sKyI...

    oh wait - here's another - towards the bottom:
    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/arch...

    I didn't look further - I proved my point - there were minorities there. So much for your "NOT ONE MINORITY" - guess you do selective searching.

    How does that make the white people who DID show up into racists? Are there any pictures of white people denying entrance to the protests to minorities? Any barricades? Please - try to educate yourself.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    LOL 3 people. Out of what... ten thousand?
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    And again, I ask you - how does that make the white people who attended racist?

    I could go to the local predominatly jewish enclave and take pictures and point out that there are no or few gentiles there. Does that mean that the jewish people in the pictures prevented any gentiles from being there?

    I could go to the historically black college in my area and take pics of students, almost none of whom are white. Does that mean all those people are racists?

    I could go to several areas in Florida and take many pictures of groups of predominately senior citizens. Does that mean that the folks in the pictures are age discriminators?

    Do you think any of those protesters might be gay? Left handed? Those are minorities too.

    Logic, I know it's a foreign concept to you, but try.

    How does white people congregating at a protest over financial bailouts make them racist? Please answer that.
  • pjkool · 5 months ago
    Their code talk makes them racist as evidenced by AM radio for the last 20 years.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Teas parties have been on AM radio for the last 20 years? And here I thought they were a relatively new phenomenon. Tell me, how is it that you can tell from photos of the protests who has listened to AM radio for the last 20 years? Logic people, logic.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    LOL oh god, i hope they manage to take control of all the teabagging. NeoNazis for teabagging.

    It doesn't get much better than that.
  • AdrianBrowne · 5 months ago
    This is a Liberal Conspiracy to discredit the All-You-Can-Eat Teabagging Events that Republicans and White supremacists have planned for the Fourth!
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Sheesh - do the people running this site ever even try to be objective or truthful?

    The nutcases from Westboro Baptist Church show up to all sort of public and private events, spreading their 'word' and trying to convert people to their beliefs and deeds. Does that mean that just because they show up, and have that intent, that that is the 'only usefulness' of these events?

    Just because white supremacists show up doesn't mean that tea party participants support them or want them there or to be associated with them.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    Teabagging parties are basically just outlets for racist, redneck bullshit from people too stupid (or with a big enough case of historical amnesia) to know wtf the boston tea party was all about.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    You mean like this blog site is just an outlet for the bashing of anything to the right of total left? ;)

    The Tea Parties are about what the government spends our money on - not racism. Ok, you don't like the name or it's historical connotation. The majority of the media picks out the 'worst' of the protesters to show because they have an agenda. I'm all for what the protesters are trying to do and I'm not racist. Have you asked the participants if they are racist or white supremacist? Most are just average citizens trying to make a better life for themselves. People with specific agendas will always pick out the most extreme to try to make their point - doesn't mean much other than that they are manipulative
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    The tea parties were a disorganized mess of people screaming "no taxes!" (which is funny, i guess they never considered where infrastructure comes from), anti-obama racist bullshit, and other disjointed nonsense sprinkled with tinfoil hat wearing, toothless rednecks bitching about their guns.

    The name is hilarious, it amazingly escaped the notice of the people 'planning' them (i use that word loosely) and is a perfect target for mockery. It exemplifies how freaking dimwitted the participants and planners are.

    The historical connotation is also idiotic, and completely wrong. See the above point. Again, ignorance and stupidity.

    Average citizens should educate themselves rather than spend hard earned dollars and time yelling nonsense and holding up signs that are even less cogent.

    p.s. I suppose the fact that there was like.. 1 minority (margin of error) at these things amid a sea of cracker-ass crackers didn't seem a bit OFF to you? I had enough friends who went to them and not ONE FUCKING MINORITY was shot or seen.

    Please.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Disorganized - yes - like many new grassroots organization - heck plenty of long term ones are disorganized - look at the turmoil in the gay community that helped put O in office.

    Funny - I looked at over 60 images from the tea parties, not a single racist sign, no tinfoil, and no mention of guns - and their 'screaming' was about bailouts and personal responsibility and and socialism.

    You are so blinded by hate for anything conservative that you can't see plain images in front of you. Facts - I know - liberals hate facts - but facts they are. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    Bitch please, want me to call up a flickr page with 20 pages of shots for you?

    And right, liberals hate facts while conservatives love them. That's why there's something called Conservapedia, where all the little wingnuts can get their "facts" because wikipedia is too liberal.

    Honey, liberals LOVE facts. We prefer to live in a world of fact and logic. We don't need to make a "Liberalpedia" so we can get safe, ideologically bent answers devoid of reality to our questions.

    Liberals want media to be factual.

    Conservatives want media to be conservative.

    Get over yourself.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Again, when you can't stand an opposing opinion you have to drop back to cursing and name calling. You do know that is a hallmark of no intelligence.

    And your point about 20 pages of flickr is? I showed you pics of black and mixed and minority protesters that were claimed here to not even exist. There's those damn pesky FACTS again. Please - show me 20 pages of pics of barricades at tea parties keeping people of color out. Facts and logic - that thing you say you want - yet when I give you fact and logic that opposes your views (pics said to not exist) you can only drop back to name calling. That's your idea of logic? Sounds like a kindergarten playground to me.

    Never heard of Conservapedia, but thanks, I'll check it out.

    Hmm, then why when faced with facts - actual pictures - you can do nothing but cuss and call names? Is that your idea of countering facts with facts and logic?

    I don't need to get over myself, I can back up my statements with facts, and when challenged by those here I can back them up yet again with facts. When you are challenged you respond with 'bitch please'. Wow, you display so much intelligence - as well as such manners.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    You showed me 3 people (actually just 2, the jury is out on the last one) out of what.. 10 thousand?

    I still rest my case. I left a margin for error and your PROOF, such as it is, barely scrapes above that.

    Thanks for proving my point.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    exhibit A of teabagging stupidity:

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hjxbJCi5EGw/Sgh62ht-HDI/A...

    i rest my case.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    One picture? LOL Man, you really are unable to use any critical thinking. You can rest your case. It's as incredibly weak as when you started. Just like the claim that there were no minorities at tea parties.
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    Where were the f*cking tea parties when we started spending billions killing innocents in Iraq?
    Where were they when the BUSH ADMIN started bailing out the banks?
    Obama is doing the same sh*t as bush but NOW there are tea parties protesting where tax dollars go???????
    Now a black man is president all you brainiacs care where your tax dollars are spent??????
    The fact that you didn't care before (no tea parties) but you do now speaks volumes.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Um, try googling images of 'bank bailout protests' and you'll see plenty of white faces protesting that too. Has nothing to do with white or black, has to do with economics.

    Tea Party is a grassroots organization that is still organizing and finding it's way and leaders - you know - kinda like all the gays here up in arms over Obama are still trying to organize and find leaders.

    Try to educate yourself and learn objective facts, not spewing hate based on ignorance.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    LOl the economics of trillion dollar war, tax break for the rich and assfucking for the rest didn't seem to matter when Die Chimpenfuhrer was in charge. Amazing how things change when a black guy gets into office.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    What is your obsession about his race? That's YOUR obsession, not mine. It's a convenient crutch for you to use as a diversionary tactic when faced with facts.

    Frankly, personally, I'd rather spend a trillion dollars on liberating people from a dictator who practiced genocide than spend a trillion dollars trying to spend us out of debt. And yes, I'm for rewarding productive citizens who take care of themselves, and for punishing those that sit on their asses wanting us to provide for them. I have worked hard and sacrificed and don't want anyone 'redistributing' my wealth.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    Really? They redistributed it upwards towards the top 2% and you didn't bitch about that.

    I guess rich folks really were deserving of your hard earned trickle up dollars.
  • Jophus · 5 months ago
    Looks like you've got yourself a fan, Gridlock.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Too funny, O wants to redistribute it down to low life folks who just want others to pay their bills.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    Did you protest George Bush's TARP bailout? Let me guess, you think it's fine to redistribute wealth to the financial industry but not to ordinary, hard working Americans.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Yep, objected to that too. And the auto bailout. All a waste of taxpayer money. That's capitalism, you make it or you don't - it's on you. If you fail, your biz disappears. Survival of the fittest companies.
  • dula · 5 months ago
    Gee I don't remember seeing any teabagging parties organized against Bush...and if he could have run for a third term I bet you would have voted for him again.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    And your point would be? Because people had enough of a President lying and spending a fortune right off the bat without the public scrutiny he'd promised and protested it - that makes them racists?

    Any condemnation of O by his supporters (seen tons of buyer's remorse here) is seen as exercising their right to free speech, if there's any condemnation of him by his opponents who happen to be white you scream "it's because he's black". Doesn't that make YOU racist? I opposed him because he's bad news - and a liar. YOU are way more caught up in his race than I am.

    If Bush could have run for a 3rd term, whether I'd have voted for him or not would depend on who his opponent had been - just like every election I've voted in - sometimes I vote R, sometimes D, sometimes I.

    and PS - couldn't find the post that came in my email where you told me to mind my own business. The running of this country IS my business and this is a free speech internet board - so - uh - too bad on you :)
  • dula · 5 months ago
    The people want gov. healthcare. I suppose many self-centered people like you don't want to pay for Police, Firefighters, schools, or parks because you think you won't ever need or want them yourself...but the people have spoken. Too bad for you.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Nope,have no problem paying for those services - those people WORK for a living. If O has the support you claim his numbers wouldn't be dropping and he'd already have had Congress signing. Fact is people are opening their eyes and have buyer's remorse - we're stuck with him - but they are letting their COngress people hear - same reason GITMO ain't closing. Not a thing self-centered about wanting to keep what I work for rather than giving it away. I'm guessing you're one of those that sucks off the gov't teat rather than take care of yourself. This too shall come to an end. Too bad for you
  • threadmonitor · 5 months ago
    A couple of squeezed (and unreadable) comments by you and Dula on this thread were deleted, including "mind your own business."
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    Grass roots!!!!

    Bwhaaaa Haaaa Haa!!!

    Again, the rich thank you for fighting to lower their taxes.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Let's see. I'm a middle-class single mother with my own home and own 3 vehicles. In the years that Bush was in office my income went up tremendously, and our standard of living improved.

    In six months of O's administration my company has laid off workers, frozen any hiring, bypassed even COL adjustments, and cut services. My property taxes jumped 1/3, my electric bill has jumped because my state and county are at a deficit, and I got a measly $13 bucks extra in my pay from his great plans. And now he wants to tax my health care benefits.

    You bet I was doing better under Bush. Do I care if the "rich" were doing better? Not really - more power to them. The only people that are going to do better financially under O are the low life's that don't want to work hard, they just want to get their piece of the wealth he wants to 're-distribute' from me, those like me, and those in higher income brackets than me.

    And I can tell you, some of those 'rich' folks that O wants to raise taxes on and stick it to - many have moved their money to offshore accounts (tho the gov't is trying hard to stop that) or have hidden it and have every intention of letting go people when the tax increases (personal and business) take effect. And I know several personally that have every intention of making sure the first they let go are O supporters.
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    Someone as unintelligent as you doesn't derserve to do well.
    Please quit reproducing.
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    Ah, again - nothing intelligent to say so you drop down to personal attacks against someone you don't even know. Quick, your ignorance is showing.

    And - I am doing quite - wasn't always, but pulled myself up without any gov't money or bailout.

    I'm old enough that I'm no longer reproducing, but I do have two children already. My oldest fell for the left wing bull they teach in colleges these days, until she moved out, had to pay her own bills, had to get a job and pay taxes - she works nights in the busiest ER in the state and sees all the welfare and medicaid leeches and the illegals - suddenly she was a Republican. Even changed her voter registration to Republican. We are so proud of her :)
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    Thank Gooness you can no longer reproduce!!
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    Oh, and the rich people thank you for your support in lowering THEIR taxes.....
  • Allie · 5 months ago
    I know you're all rabid now, but try to stick with one topic at a time - I know liberals are masters at diversion by changing topic - and at resorting to name calling when they can't defend their wrong positions, but try.
  • Butch1 · 5 months ago
    Just what we need, more toothless mouth breather's. I'll bet, because they are straight, the service would love to have them. Now, if they can only teach them to follow orders and not "their" agenda. Don't think so.
  • Soundboy_jeff_meanie · 5 months ago
    was there any doubt given the people that go to the teabagging things?
  • revphat · 5 months ago
    Support the Million Can March counter protest to the tea parties. Buy an extra bag or two of groceries while you're shopping for your July 4th picnic and then take them to your local food pantry. Let me know how many cans you donated. http://unrulymob.blogspot.com/2009/06/your-cans... One million cans of food by July 4th.

    And no silly hats.
  • saml · 5 months ago
    i have been saving my tea bag for a lucky white supremacilts- you betcha !
  • libertydan · 5 months ago
    Wtf this is not GOP extremism, teaparties have nothing to do with white supremacy.
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    LOL yeah, they just happen to coincide
  • woodroad34 · 5 months ago
    The rise of right-wing terrorist groups.
  • libertydan · 5 months ago
    Forget the issues, just try really hard to label the opposition as racist
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    They do that pretty well themselves.
  • Jophus · 5 months ago
    I know this isn't the place, but I just saw it. Pennsylvania State Sen. John Eichelberger (R) on same sex marriage in June.

    Eichelberger: They’re not being punished. We’re allowing them to exist, and do what every American can do. We’re just not rewarding them with any special designation.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/30/gays-exist/
  • KerrynowCampau · 5 months ago
    The famous "taken out of context" defense

    What a douchebag
  • Gridlock · 5 months ago
    He's sorry that people were offended, he's not sorry he offended people.
  • Seven Hills · 5 months ago
    "White Supremacy at Cincinnati Tea Party" (with photo of local neo-Nazis), Cincinnati Beacon, 4/16/09: http://tinyurl.com/cwuh4m
  • libertydan · 5 months ago
    And behind him is a patriot protesting the bailout :P
  • pjkool · 5 months ago
    Fascism is alive and well in America. Until we stop ignoring it the nation is in peril. It's 1935 in America.
  • pjkool · 5 months ago
    Let’s get real here. The tea baggers are neo fascists. Americans died in WWII fighting the same kind of fascism. The tea bagger movement is a threat to American democracy. They seek a one party system that doesn’t tolerate dissent. They are not patriots. Their intentions are anti-American.
  • Mike_in_the_Tundra · 5 months ago
    Sinclair Lewis: "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
  • Greyfox · 5 months ago
    So true.
  • SCLiberal · 5 months ago
    I wonder how many undercover FBI will be milling around with the white supremacist recruiters. Never know when you might run into the next Timothy McVeigh.