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AMERICAblog: World Bank: biofuels forced food crisis

  • 1billinnj2 · 1 year ago
    bush, cheney and their advisors are all pieces of garbage. they need to be thrown in the trash. impeach these fools before the bomb iran and keep us in war for the next 50 years.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    How much longer will the forth day of July be a day that Americans can celebrate their independence?
    Investigate - Impeach - Indict - Imprison.

    A must read by Mike Malloy...

    The Tipping Point is the level at which the momentum for change becomes unstoppable. It’s that hold-your-breath weightless moment when the car reaches the crest of the roller coaster … just before the screaming plunge into history. I don’t know what will happen … but it doesn’t look good for our team.

    The Tipping Point’s moment can only be determined in retrospect but I’ll go out on a limb and say that we approached The Tipping Point’s “Event horizon” on June 5th when the Senate Intelligence Committee released their report stating that Bush, Cheney, and other administration officials lied the United States into war. ABC and CBS didn’t cover the story. NBC spent less than 30 seconds on it.

    We hit The Tipping Point dead on four days later. Dennis Kucinich introduced 35 Articles of Impeachment against The Bush Regime and the MainStreamMedia responded with an almost complete news blackout.

    http://superbeans.com/rant_06_12_08.htm
  • vkobaya · 1 year ago
    Investigate - Impeach - Indict - Imprison.

    As someone who is opposed to the death penalty, I would add execute. I oppose the death penalty because it is savage, barbaric, degrades us as the state to the level of the felon, because it is unfairly applied to minorities, the poor, blue collar, juveniles and mentally ill criminals while the rick, wealthy, powerful, elite and well connected are protected, not only from the death penalty but from prosecution and allowed the pretense that they did nothing wrong except in exceedingly egregious circumstances or if the killer is hated in the community. Look at Edward Kennedy. Does anyone debate that if he were impoverished Black or Hispanic, he would have been prosecuted at least for manslaughter and more likely for 2nd degree murder and especially if his victim were a white girl? Oh, but that's different! Yeah, right. A minority out with a white girl is a crime that is still regarded as punishable by death in far too much of this country.

    No, I set aside all my reservations about the death penalty when it comes to deliberately bigoted, hateful, corrupt, vile, evil, barbaric, savage, mass and serial murdering criminals, thieves, liars and international war criminals of the ilk of the members of the current administration ... as well as the entire damn enablers and co-conspirators, accomplices and accessories in Congress, Democrats and Republicans. Better to execute Kucinich and Barbara Lee than to let any of the other criminals escape the justice they fully, well have earned over and over and over again.
  • MAJMark · 1 year ago
    June 5th when the Senate Intelligence Committee released their report stating that Bush, Cheney, and other administration officials lied the United States into war"
    Think about it. Why would Bush lie to the UN, the American people, BUT the worst, lie to Congress, (knowing that it’s a Federal offence), invade, conquer and then not find WMD, when all he needed to do was plant the WMD to keep the ‘lie’ viable, so as not to commit a crime?
    Please, it’s was bad intelligence and Congress know this.
    He will never be impeached!
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Why not eat the corn first and then extract the methane from the excrement afterwards. Not all that far out, years ago, in Rajasthan I ate a number of meals cooked on fires of dried cow and camel dung.
  • SkippyFlipjack · 1 year ago
    someone help me here. yes Bush is interested in pushing the interests of lobbyists but it's not like he's been pushing hard to move from oil to biofuels; he mostly wants to drill for more oil. why's this such an embarrassment to him?
  • Sage24 · 1 year ago
    The dollar has dropped 41 percent against the Euro during Bush's presidency.

    It is amazing that there are idiots out there, who still want to vote for republicans and want to continue republican failed policies.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087...
  • downindixie · 1 year ago
    Just maybe Obama will turn to hemp!
  • Hangtown Danile · 1 year ago
    Pass the duchie on the left hand side!
  • Andrew · 1 year ago
    Sage24....The real idiots along with the Bushies are the ones drawing a salary at the World Bank. The world didn't start starving this year, but the media has finally seen fit to make an issue of it and for good reason. We pay farmers in the US not to grow crops, but we decided to turn food into ethanol. Go figure.
    Stupidity and starvation. Priceless.
  • MAJMark · 1 year ago
    Let me give you a little free advice. The Food you speak of, that makes Ethanol, is feed corn, NOT sweet corn.

    Ethanol is the lease efficient fuel the USA has produced.
  • vwcat · 1 year ago
    So what if it embarrasses chimpy. By the way, we are the worst in the g8 for glolal warming so why not just give Chimpy both bad news at once.
    He is an embarrassment for us anyway.
    I told my husband that I think people would be thrilled if we held the election tomorrow, swore in the new president and hustled him into the white house all within an hour and evicted bush immediately.
    But, I did qualify that maybe there might be a day or so between swearing in and rushing the new president into the white house so they have time to fumigate the place after Bush is evicted.
  • unrepentant_expat · 1 year ago
    Afghanis celebrate the fourth of July

    Not a lot of food there either but the opium's nearly free and kills the hunger pangs.

    Aghan official says US strikes killed 22 civilians
    AP - 2 hours, 27 minutes ago

    KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military said airstrikes by its attack helicopters hit two vehicles carrying insurgents in eastern Afghanistan. The province's governor said 22 civilians, including a woman and a child...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080705/ap_on_re_as...
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    But Straight-talk John said we were winning the drug war. My world is collapsing. I cannot believe Big John lied.
  • green_libertarian · 1 year ago
    Ha, ha, the "respected" World Bank, agent of US and European imperialism the world over. Home of the economic hit men. Yeah, they can be trusted for good analysis.

    At most, a third of the run up in commodity food prices is due to biofuels. How to explain that wheat price has tripled in 3 years, and is NOT a biofuel crop?

    The LARGEST component (at least half) to the increase in food commodities price is the quadrupling of the price of "feedstock" for growing corn and other food, that feedstock being petroleum necessary to plant the crops, till the fields, fertilize, and harvest the crop. And to some real production (read supply) problems in normally big producers, like Australia, as well as high demand, and SOME speculation.

    Corn based ethanol is driving up the cost of feed corn for animal production, which will result in increased meat prices, that's definitely true, however, meat production is woefully wasteful anyway.
  • Wisconsin Liberal · 1 year ago
    It used to be that there was always an abundance of corn and that's why the price to farmers was so low as to have to subsidise them. and that there was not enough storage (remember corn out on the ground in many areas). So now there is more of a market for the product. Which means another value added profit . Then after the starch in corn is taken out to produce ethanol, the remaining distillers grain, can be fed to cattle and to chickens (pigs I have been told won't eat it). Yes the price has gone up but some of this is due to speculation, brought to you by the same people who brought you the tech bubble, housing bubble, oil price speculation (I still can by all the gas I need to fill my tanks), and now the commodity price rise. Australia has had droughts and in turn no wheat crop to speek of. Lets look at the whole picture.

    Maybe we should be buying local, or grow more of our own to cut down on transportation. I am starting to do more every little bit helps.
  • akryan · 1 year ago
    A big part of the reasons wheat and other non biofuels have gone up because people aren't growing them so they can sow biofuel crops. The other reasons you listed are correct too though.
  • Indigo · 1 year ago
    Now that "Pat Robertson and Al Sharpton have come together to help save the planet" (as one of the advertisers on AmBlog announces) I feel comfortably reassured that the pastel-green movement is entirely co-empted by mainstream business. I can sigh a sigh of relief that the issue is in competent hands the mainstream media want us to trust and move on to more urgent matters . . . Restore Prohibition!
  • greatdogs · 1 year ago
    How much of this report is the IMF and World Bank going into the CYA mode? Many small countries at one time produced a lot of their own food, But if they wanted a loan from the IMF or WB, they had to eliminate tariffs on imports. Then subsidized crops were imported, many by the US, to these countries and sold at less than the cost of production. Small farmers in these places then went out of business and the local supplies dried up. Then the prices go up and the local populace cannot afford to feed themselves. Two good examples are Haiti that used to produce enough rice to sustain itself and Mexico where many small farmers fell victim to US grown corn, which has also contributed to the number of Mexican immigrants who have come north looking for work. The current biofuel policy is best described as the ethanol boondoggle. But unfortunately, we are lacking the national leadership necessary to solve our energy problems.
  • Fireblazes(CheetohsandCatfood) · 1 year ago
    Here is something interesting. A gallon of diesel is about $5.00, a gallon of cooking oil is around 7.50. What happens when the price of diesel surpasses the price of vegetable oil? I have said since the start of the food as fuels crap it was like burning down your house to keep warm in the winter.
  • jr · 1 year ago
    solar power please
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    If people really cared, they wouldn't eat grain-fed livestock and would eat less meat in general.

    "If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million," David Pimentel, professor of ecology in Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, reported at the July 24-26 meeting of the Canadian Society of Animal Science in Montreal. Or, if those grains were exported, it would boost the U.S. trade balance by $80 billion a year, Pimentel estimated.

    http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/aug97/live...
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    Moreover:

    Animal protein production requires more than eight times as much fossil-fuel energy than production of plant protein while yielding animal protein that is only 1.4 times more nutritious for humans than the comparable amount of plant protein, according to the Cornell ecologist's analysis.
  • Bush_Bites · 1 year ago
    World meat production has surged nearly fivefold since 1950, growing from 44 million tons to 211 million tons in 1997. Per capita meat production stands at 36 kg, more than double the 1950 level. Today, people share the Earth's natural resources with nearly 1 billion pigs, 1.3 billion cows, 1.8 billion sheep and goats, and 13.5 billion chickens-over two chickens for each man, woman and child on the planet. (See Table 1.)

    Rising affluence has allowed people throughout the world to alter their diets to include more meat. Over the last decade, per capita consumption of beef, pork and chicken has doubled in the world's poorer nations-though it is still just one-third the level in industrial nations.

    This boom in meat consumption has been accompanied by increased intake of all animal products, such as dairy products and eggs, as well as seafood. Per capita consumption of milk, cheese, yogurt, ice cream and eggs have climbed to all-time highs. The world fish harvest has soared from 21 million tons to 120 million tons since mid-century, tripling the per capita consumption of seafood.

    In a world where an estimated one in every six people goes hungry each day, the politics of meat consumption are increasingly heated, since meat production is an inefficient use of grain-the grain is used more efficiently when consumed directly by humans. Continued growth in meat output is dependent on feeding grain to animals, creating competition for grain between affluent meat eaters and the world's poor.


    http://www.worldwatch.org/node/1626
  • green_libertarian · 1 year ago
    It is not always easy to change from wheat production to corn (for biofuel) because of the climate, wheat generally needs far less moisture than does corn, also, different equipment required for harvesting and on-field processing.

    I live in a large dryland wheat growing area, and what's happened here is that all the Crop Reserve land has been put into wheat production, and fields that were left fallow one year, or with a no till crop, for soil conservation, are being (have been) planted.

    And Bush Bites is exactly correct about the the overconsumption of meat, especially in the developed world. Not only does it have huge economic and environmental costs, but huge health costs as well from eating too much meat. And then there's the horrendous factory farm and meat processing industry.
  • kman2 · 1 year ago
    Americablog, you didn't mention that the data The Guardian uses (75% price rise) comes from a supposedly secret report. I will only beleive it when unbaised ag researchers get their hands on it. At first blush the data of 75% looks bogus. What accounts for the rise in rice prices then? The land used for rice is not used as biofuel land. The liberal blogs are as bad as the MSM. Tell a lie enough times it becomes believed.

    Also, it's always interesting to note that anti-biofuel people never pick on their own favorite ethanol products that use land that could've been used for food (Napa valley for wine grapes, wheat/corn for liquor, barely/wheat for beer). There's no way anyone can make an argument that the land used for making the drinking type of ethanol is any different than the ethanol used for driving the VW or SUV. In fact there is an ethanol plant in Benson, MN that makes ethanol biofuel and ethanol for drinking (Vodka) on exactly the same distilling equipment.
  • dmorgan · 1 year ago
    I can only imagine the various sorts of people and industries that would benefit from blaming biofuels for the world's food crises. Rather than biofuels, people have only themselves to blame. In 1900, the global human population is estimated to have been 1.6 billion. Today, it is 6.3 billion. Egypt alone has added 40 million people to its population since 1980. 40 million open mouths and grumbling stomachs.
  • Mescalero · 1 year ago
    The C.D. Howe institute here in in Canada has estimated that Americans are paying $4.7 billion more each year for food. http://www.financialpost.com/trading_desk/energ... This report is not secret, but it is scary kman2.