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STFU and Drop Out.
Thanks
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8464923...
takes you to youtube and rather than watching the whole Hillary The Movie , click on the Movie trailer. This is what she will face if she wins the nomination. It will be played day and night on every right wing station in the U.S. and quoted frequently by papers like the Post Gazette. The DNC is acting just like our Dem Congress no strength, no unity and no leadership.
Hillary Clinton as Panderer-in-Chief...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/c...
Yeah, he really cares about the vets.
Shouldn't Scaife have expected more from Vince Foster's temptress?
Populist campaign is a K-street fake....
Thanks. Someone ought to run a story about Hillary's affinity for the right wing press.
Time for you to post on here and tell us why she did this.
What makes this any different than Reverend Wright? ie: Sacife said some very very very bad things about The President of the United States of America and NOW Hillary wants to Associate herself with this man who has said some very very very bad things about the President of the United States?
Kind of like the shoe on the other foot.
Here, though, the situation is so odd that it's hard to defend, although we don't really know what was discussed, so it's hard to froth at the mouth and attack, either.
It certainly seems like an odd choice for a candidate who is losing support in her own party, and as with many choices she's made lately, she's taking bad advice and undercutting her strengths and her own good works over the years.
Hillary has not gone on Stephanie Miller's show, or Ed Shultz's show or Randi Rhodes Show, or Keith Olbermann's show or Sam Seders' show or Thom Hartman's show...and last night even Larry King said she has not gone on his show....
BUT she finds time to go Right Wing owned shows.
Even back in 2007 or January 2008...she did not go on any of these shows.
Seriously.....NOT ONCE has she gone on these shows....even back in the Fall of 2007 when she was ahead in the polls.
WTF?
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I don't think she expected serious opposition from Obama, and she's been off her gameplan ever since Iowa.
In many ways, Richard Mellon Scaife and Hillary Clinton go together like James Carville and Mary Joe Matalin. And the question you gotta be asking yourself here is, what comes next? If this were just about populate vote and pledged delegates, then maybe everyone could safely declare this over and Obama would be the nominee. But anyone who thinks Obama cannot be denied the nomination at this point does not fully appreciarte how the Democratic party works. The last mile is always the toughest.
What I see, from my little remote perch is that perhaps the Clintons had performed a diplomatic revolution sometime earlier. Probably a promise by Hillary to continue certain policies inherited from Bush if she happens to get elected (I'm thinking Neocon policies, particularly Iraq, but just guessing). This realignment began a long time ago, from her fund raising w/ Murdoch, to Bill's relationship with Bush the elder, and I think those contacts pushed Schaife into meeting with Bill, where upon Bill told him point blank to desist in his attacks. I think Bill's point would have been to inform Schaife that if Hillary is going to carry water for the Neocons, he's got to get on board too. That sort of thing. And I think Schaife here was serving up soft balls for Hillary to whack.
I'm sure if you look into it, you'll find that Bill Clinton met with Schaiffe in the last 4 or 5 months or something like that. I believe the article said they met at a restaurant in New York City.
There's more to the Schaife and Hillary thing than meets the eye.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/health/25well...
what a boat load of shit the Clintons are. Bill would hump a dead dog for a vote for Hillary.
They have no self respect or dignity.
They will sleep with the enemy, just to win that damn nomination.
I have lost all respect for this cheesy couple.
What's next? Would she propose sitting down with the leaders of Iran and Syria and Cuba without pre-condition, just on the theory that it's good to talk to your enemies? Even if it diminished the power of the Presidency?
Oh, wait, no that's the OTHER Democratic candidate. From today's Wall Street Journal:
"Barack Obama is drawing fresh fire for pledging to hold direct talks with foreign adversaries, an approach both Hilary Clinton and John McCain say they will hit hard. Critics in the foreign policy establishment and from rival presidential camps said his idea could undercut pro-Western forces and legitimize leaders whose power the U.S. wants to undermine, including Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad."
"Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran specialist at Washington's Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, who said he is generally supportive of Sen. Obama's agenda[, said] "Only two things can rehabilitate Ahmadinejad politically: bombing Iran or major efforts to engage him" ahead of the [2009 Iranian presidential election.]"
No, no hypocrisy in this criticism at all, perfectly valid. Keep up the good work!
As an american living in Europe for the last 15+ years, I noticed a surprising culture shock. It is the "pat on the back" or "we're all THE BEST!!" attitude that pervades the US. In an employee evaluation form for example where rating is 1-5 with 5 bing best (or perfect), I had been used to 4's and 5's in the fields. Suddenly it was 3's and 2's. I thought I was doing a bad job. It was explained "we EXPECT you to be competent, and do a good job. 3 is "meets expectations". If you are getting consistent 4's it means you need to move up.
In the US, people all want to help buy into the "the best" mode. "We're number ONE!", and gets to ridiculous proportions...hearing Bush (or really, almost ANY politician) "speechifying" to some farmers in Ohio "the American farmer are the BEST farmers in the world!" (whereas, I was pretty impressed with Mongolian farmers that figured out how to grow potatos, in that climate and altitude...)
Or Bill bryson pointing out in a book how a swedish exchange student, would get constantly asked "So...how do you like the US?" and people actually would be hurt if she said she liked it very much, but when asked if she didn'¨t wish she lived here, said "well Sweden is my home, I would always go back there" and they would get dissapointed and almost dismissive. I've seen that played over many times.
The point is, this obsession with it, the idea that the US can do no wrong, and we call it patriotism, that the US can dictate, and demand, and force it's views, because after all...we are "the FREEST land in the world" (which is definitively NOT so, especially since Bush)...
SO they can't bear to hear anything negative, not stopping to even wonder if it might be true in one context or another. The "we're always the good guys" is getting ridiculous, when we condone torture, eternal jail without trial, draconian methods, tasering of people simply speaking...
I don't see any way to change it either, unless there is a real shift in consciousness.
There are many average american voters who will hear what Wright said and it will completely turn them off Obama, period. It's unthinking, automatic, and even against their own self-interest, but that won't matter.
This is vile. Deal-with-the-devil vile desperation.
"You can't shake the devil's hand and say your only joking"
John -- these stories are not working. The Bosnia story has not moved the Gallup dailies one bit. http://www.gallup.com/poll/105664/Gallup-Daily-... Better try something more substantive.
How about Obama's second pastor, the anti-gay one? The Rev. Meeks is someone Obama goes to for counseling also.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,oba...
Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church. The day after Obama won the primary in March, he stopped by Salem for Wednesday-night Bible study.
"I know that he's a person of prayer," Meeks says. "The night after the election, he was the hottest thing going from Galesburg to Rockford. He did all the TV shows, and all the morning news, but his last stop at night was for church. He came by to say thank you, and he came by for prayer."
Here is the Rev. Meeks in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM2M11BsA3g
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/James.Meeks.M...
You can read about Meeks' anti-gay positions at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which posts about hate crimes, and hate groups.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/arti...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/opinion/26dow...
There aren't many reich-wing movements that Scaife hasn't backed with his billions. He formed the Santorum Victory Committee but then Rick Santorum is part of Hillary's fundie prayer group.
I'd rather sit through a six hour Rev. Wright sermon than sit next to him.
I actually think that she knows that it's over, there is a article at Huffpo were Reid is saying that him and others including Dean are talking proper decission to end this whole fiasco about naming a Democatic nominee before
the Convention. It's over!! , but she's doing everything possible to bring Obama down all in favor of Mccain and the REpublicans. She's droughting him , making Obama waste his campaign money, time and energy when all of this should be directed at Mccain.At the same time handing ammo over to the Rep machine.
At the end of the day She and Hubby are good friends with the Republican gang and have done business with them for years. Someone should revoke her Democratic Membership Card.